Ok. You started with Supreme Court that only ruled on gay marriage because the cowardly legislators we vote on were too scared of or complicit with bigots to actually pass on their own.

You realize Supreme Court justices are still the products of elections, right? People elect Presidents who appoint Supreme Court Justices. Obergefell v. Hodges was a 5-4 decision, so if just one of those Justices was not appointed, then the decision fails.

Obamacare was a heritage foundation policy that the worthless corrupt democrats watered down, but it’s the last thing of any consequence your party passed and you and the rest of the centrists have been coasting on being able to pass republican policy ever since. Great “work”.

It’s funny how you’re trying to hand wave away policy that helps millions of people while the only alternative solution you’re offering is to not vote for the left wing party in a two-party system.

Now tell us how you idolize ICE some more.

Find me one country in the world that does not have a border patrol agency or does not spend money on border enforcement. Valid criticisms of ICE would be pointing out how differently it operates under different party administrations.

I have now realized as I login to this account on my computer instead of phone that this is lemmy.ml post and I’m talking to Tankies. I don’t respect your opinion and think you are a joke so I’m going to stop engaging further. If you live in the US then congratulations on having on zero impact and unquestionably worsening your own life. If you don’t then I assume you are a bot. And in either case to become a Tankie you pretty clearly have failed on quite a few levels in your personal life, so for that you have my condolences.

You just took a clear question/point (1 or 1 million people) and fabricated it into an unrelated and incorrect equivalency (omg what if they’re like Republicans and Democrats???). Realizing now I’ve wasted my time talking to someone who is, respectfully, a joke.

I literally just listed multiple progressive policies the Democrats passed. Still waiting for someone to provide one example of how not voting has helped anyone. Amazing how privileged and dumb your take is, although ultimately I guess it doesn’t matter because you’re basically proud of being completely inconsequential.

Lol bro, go ahead and don’t vote then. Maybe if we let the GOP win all three branches uncontested for the next century and they dismantle education, gerrymander or just outright remove fair elections, and kill the planet with climate change, then people will feel really bad and adopt your politics. It’s worked so many times in the past.

Also there’s a difference between valid criticisms of the Democratic Party and this post which is demonizing them on the same level as the GOP simply because Democrats spent money on their border patrol. As if Obama or Biden were the ones who introduced Alligator Alcatraz.

If you were in the trolley problem and the trolley was headed towards a million people, I can imagine you opting not to pull the lever to switch it to a single person because you won’t act unless there’s a perfect option with zero casualties.

The party whose Supreme Court justices were responsible for all gay rights advancements, always vote to protect abortion rights, passed Obamacare to helps millions of Americans out, vs. a Republican party that has done literally everything in their power to empower their largest donors, and more recently has existed for the sole purpose of enriching the Trump family?

If you can’t see the difference between the two then you’re either being willfully obtuse or you’re a subversive agent for the GOP. My money is on the latter honestly.

You realize every country has border patrol, right? Spending money on your border patrol agency isn’t inherently evil. Denmark is one of the most “socialist” countries in the world, but they also have one of the strictest border policies.

ICE under Obama was very different to ICE under Trump.

Weird how all these anti-Democrats think that the only competitive left party in the US failing will somehow lead to the Republicans relinquishing power instead of consolidating it.

Russia had two or three fair elections after the fall of the Soviet Union, until Putin came into power and now he “wins” every election with 98% of the vote.

But I’m sure if the Democratic Party disappeared tomorrow then somehow Republicans would just give up their power. Lol.

How could a representative from a place colloquially referred to as “Flash Flood Alley” have known that it would [checks notes] flood?

What is whataboutism, Alex?

Republicans: categorically awful on every single issue

Democrats: Not that

Babies: waaaah I want a competitive party that matches my opinions on every single issue

Find me one major party in the entire world that matches your personal ideals 100%. Spoiler: it doesn’t exist, unless you happen to be a king or dictator of an authoritarian state.

Two party systems means you have two parties with distinct ethics, and one party winning consistently means the country’s ethics will shift over time in the favor of that winning party. So keep spite voting against Democrats and see where that gets you.

Edit: you know why the Democrats are similar to Republicans on so many issues? Because Republicans keep winning elections.

Define win because I’m pretty sure it doesn’t mean what you think it means.

The only tactic with “almost instant” results would be the US just nuking everything, which A. is definitely not a “win” by any definition, and B. is an insanely irresponsible assumption that there wouldn’t be substantial collateral damage and that’s if you were inhumane enough to ignore the lives of everyone living in the targeted countries to begin with.

Or somehow do you think the US could win a conventional war against three separate countries “almost instantly”, after it took 2 decades to make absolutely no lasting changes in Afghanistan? In which case just lol.

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