• waigl@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    The American Civil War was arguably not actually a civil war, but a war of secession.

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      9 months ago

      I’m curious about this, because by definition, the American Civil War was a “civil war” (emphasis mine):

      A civil war is a war between organized groups within the same state (or country). The aim of one side may be to take control of the country or a region, to achieve independence for a region, or to change government policies.

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        9 months ago

        Those who don’t like calling it a “civil war” believe that the Confederacy actually became a legitimate separate country during that time, therefore it doesn’t count. It’s a mainly academic argument, until you realize that the reason they persist in calling it something else is that they think it’s still a separate country and that the Union is an illegal and illegitimate occupation force.

        You can, of course, imagine the other stuff they also believe.

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          9 months ago

          Let those chumps know that exactly 0 (zero) other nations recognized the CSA as a legitimate independent nation.

          I’m certain they’ll argue about political repression by northern states, but as it stands, the ever-contentious Palestine has the confederacy beat.

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      9 months ago

      It is arguably about northern aggression since arguing anything is possible. That doesn’t make it correct.

      It was a civil war because the states that declared they were seceding never successfully seceded. Otherwise there would have been a step where they rejoined the union, which wasn’t necessary because they were still member states of the US. That makes it a civil war.