Nah, at least in the US women buy these too or giant SUVs with the exact same problem. Maybe it was marketing to men that started it, but it certainly isn’t exclusive.
Can y’all stop making feminists roll in their graves? Learn some basic elementary school shit about how women can intentionally, unintentionally, consciously or subconciously participate in sexism against women. Please, I am terrified of how powerful an undead feminist uprising would be, human men would be fucked (or rather not fucked) for the next 10 million years. Even if we are going to continue to be sexist can we at least all agree that sexism is more nuanced than a binary “does this person possess sexism or not?” and that you can be sexist without realizing it, or be forced or cajoled into participating in sexism without realizing it?
By far the funniest evidence for my point is that I am myself a heterosexual white man who falls in a lot of ways along the stereotypes of what a heterosexual white man is like, and yet the single biggest point I am getting in pushback in this thread is that my attack on men isn’t warranted because women drive pickups too so that can’t be a toxic masculinity thing… but by that logic it would be impossible for me to be sexist towards heterosexual white men right now since I am a heterosexual white man, and yet I am or at least I arguably am being sexist according to many other people on this thread?
So which is it? Can you participate in toxic sexism without being part of the group that is on paper given permission to participate in applying the sexism with force to vulnerable groups? Can you participate in sexism intentionally or unintentionally as a victim of that very sexism? Can you participate in sexism against the categories that society or you yourself have imposed on yourself? Or is it impossible/nobody would ever do it and I am not being sexist because I am a man?
See the thing is, I do agree, we shouldn’t be sexist towards men and men have lots of problems facing them right now (chiefly, men being allowed to grow into adult babies who are incredibly emotionally immature and don’t know how to deal with intense emotions in a healthy manner, especially when they stem from their views being challenged but that is a tangent) but if everybody is going to insist on having a conversation about it like we are all babies, than I will continue to light heartedly shit on men… as a man.
This community is “FuckCars”, not “FuckMen”. There are plenty of men here who are here because “Fuck Cars”. I don’t think that alienating the men of this community will do any good.
This isn’t a discovery, this is just one of the things men in US society decided to ignore the danger of and the rest of us dutifully complied.
No, but it’s a Range Rover, so close enough.
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They also sold 884k full size trucks. How does the CEO being a woman change that the vast majority of these purchases are men?
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Business person makes business decision, must be because they’re a woman
I’m too tired for this shit
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No, I’m not entertaining this anymore - it is overwhelmingly men at the core of the truck problem in the U.S.
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You have seen how incompetent Elon Musk is and you’re still behaving like CEOs actually matter. Beyond the ability to tank his brand, of course.
I don’t have anything else to say.
checkmate feminists
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You will never escape samsara.
Hey, we are boiling together in the pot after all Rigatoni eh?
Nah, at least in the US women buy these too or giant SUVs with the exact same problem. Maybe it was marketing to men that started it, but it certainly isn’t exclusive.
Can y’all stop making feminists roll in their graves? Learn some basic elementary school shit about how women can intentionally, unintentionally, consciously or subconciously participate in sexism against women. Please, I am terrified of how powerful an undead feminist uprising would be, human men would be fucked (or rather not fucked) for the next 10 million years. Even if we are going to continue to be sexist can we at least all agree that sexism is more nuanced than a binary “does this person possess sexism or not?” and that you can be sexist without realizing it, or be forced or cajoled into participating in sexism without realizing it?
By far the funniest evidence for my point is that I am myself a heterosexual white man who falls in a lot of ways along the stereotypes of what a heterosexual white man is like, and yet the single biggest point I am getting in pushback in this thread is that my attack on men isn’t warranted because women drive pickups too so that can’t be a toxic masculinity thing… but by that logic it would be impossible for me to be sexist towards heterosexual white men right now since I am a heterosexual white man, and yet I am or at least I arguably am being sexist according to many other people on this thread?
So which is it? Can you participate in toxic sexism without being part of the group that is on paper given permission to participate in applying the sexism with force to vulnerable groups? Can you participate in sexism intentionally or unintentionally as a victim of that very sexism? Can you participate in sexism against the categories that society or you yourself have imposed on yourself? Or is it impossible/nobody would ever do it and I am not being sexist because I am a man?
See the thing is, I do agree, we shouldn’t be sexist towards men and men have lots of problems facing them right now (chiefly, men being allowed to grow into adult babies who are incredibly emotionally immature and don’t know how to deal with intense emotions in a healthy manner, especially when they stem from their views being challenged but that is a tangent) but if everybody is going to insist on having a conversation about it like we are all babies, than I will continue to light heartedly shit on men… as a man.
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You read a lot of stuff I didn’t write.
This community is “FuckCars”, not “FuckMen”. There are plenty of men here who are here because “Fuck Cars”. I don’t think that alienating the men of this community will do any good.
lol do you think I am powerful enough to alienate entire categories of men? Who do you think I am some kind of god destroyer?
Alienation can result from actions of individuals, yes.
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