This was a Critical Mass event, which is why the bicyclists are taking up all of the street as a way to reclaim the streets and protest the lack of safety for riders under usual conditions. It’s not legal, but protests are never useful if they’re fully legal now, are they.

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    She definitely should have either stopped or gone a different route, but it is incredibly dangerous to cycle head onto incoming motor traffic. Not really a great look for the cyclists.

    Better off staying in the correct lane but hogging it so vehicles had no choice but to stay behind.

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      Yes the bicycleist are wrong and are only hurting the cause. What if the lady had to get to work with no orher way, or what the hell they do if there was emergency that ambulance needed access. Riding bike on wrong side of the road just makes them assholes. If you don’t know its a protest it ineffective. Besides protesting late at night is also dumb. This isn’t a protest, just bicycles wanting to be dicks.

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        what the hell they do if there was emergency that ambulance needed access

        So the neat thing about ambulances, and other emergency vehicles, is they have flashing lights AND sierns to let people know they are there.

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          And protesters always swiftly move to let emergency vehicles through, because they know not to block actually useful vehicles like ambulances and fire engines

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            I agree, crowds of protesters are far more observant than drivers. I’ve seen ambulances stuck in new York traffic before

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              This guy has a picture of it happening once, in another country, with people stationary on foot, it has to be true. Unless there is a picture floating around out there of people not moving… That would blow this whole thing up.

              God, anecdotal evidence is such brain rot.

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                Nobody thinks this proves anything. If you think that is what is happening, tend to your own brain rot.

                This is evidence supporting an argument, not evidence proving an argument. Feel free to provide contrary evidence.

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                  Oh look, more brain rot.

                  I can find images of people not moving. That would go against the argument. My point is, cherry picking one or two instances of something proves only that it can happen. Not that it does.

                  I mean I Googled “protesters blocking emergency vehicles” and got tons of results. So what we a exactly does that picture prove? It happened once? Cool.

                  Very first result, incase you need it. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/just-stop-oil-waterloo-bridge-ambulance-b2443700.html

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                    The vehicle, which had its blue lights on, was trapped on Waterloo Bridge on Wednesday morning due to congestion caused by Just Stop Oil, Met Police said. Pictures and footage from the scene shared on social media show queues of traffic in both directions on the busy bridge.

                    The climate campaigners have hit back at the force’s handling of the incident and claimed it was the Met police blocking the ambulance so they could “blame it on a protest march going in the other direction”.

                    The protesters weren’t the one blocking the ambulance. The cars were, and the cops didn’t do anything to alleviate that so the ambulance could get through the cars and to the protesters who would’ve let it through anyway.

                    You should read the entire article when you try to do a gotcha.

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                    was that so hard?

                    cherry picking one or two instances of something proves only that it can happen. Not that it does.

                    close; it proves it DID happen, which necesarily implies it DOES happen. You are right to object that a single genuine datapoint (or as you like to spin it, “anecdote”) cannot say anything about frequency, but I really have to steelman what you are saying to get there.

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        Protests need to make sure that no one is ever inconvenienced or made uncomfortable. That way people can just ignore it and we can all feel better about ourselves

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          Be idealist all you want. If you try to convince someone to join or support your cause by angering them, it won’t work. You form enemies, not allies.

          If the purpose of this was to make the bikers feel good while turning people against bikers, I’m sure it worked. This protest isn’t going to make someone in a car 30 minutes late and think “hey those cyclists just going through red lights, the wrong way, making me late, they got a real good point.”

          People need to be realistic and realize that whimsical ideals don’t seamlessly translate to reality.

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        or what the hell they do if there was emergency that ambulance needed access

        I’m guessing they would get out of the way?

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      It’s functionally identical. The lane is occupied. Motorists cannot enter it, whether the cyclists are facing them or not.

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        It is not.

        Cars follow the rules of traffic. This means you know basically what they will do. These people are just a mob. Look at how many of those bikes just cross solid lines. This is no where near the same. We can’t make progress if we start acting irrationally.

        Also, cars don’t drive on the wrong side of the road into traffic and through red lights.

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      I’m with you. I get this is a protest, but I don’t protest gun violence against kids by parading them down a firing range. Taking up the whole road can result in you getting hurt, it doesn’t matter what should be our what your ideals are. It’s a road for cars and behaving like this increases the chance that someone gets hurt.

      On top of that this does what every protest that interrupts traffic does, makes people dislike you and your cause.

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        “I don’t protest racial injustice by going to a segregated lunch counter. That could get you hurt.”

        -Lightor, c. 1960.