• explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    Daily reminder that

    • Brave’s CEO donates to homophobic organizations and
    • Brave is connected to the BAT pay-to-surf scam

    Don’t use Brave.

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    1 month ago

    stop promoting brave. oh my god it’s 2025 how good is their propaganda… they were never cool.

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    1 month ago

    Not a search engine, but last week I learned of the European Open Websearch project, which builds a new free and open search index. It should already be ready to try out. Hopefully we will see some search engines implementing this soon.

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    1 month ago

    Anyone noticed google brought back forum seaching again? I left google search way back just because that feature went away.

    Either way I can’t stand the AI answers I can’t turn off.

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      Me too. Kagi is the best of them all, including Google.

      The only downside? It’s an American company.

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          I’m okay with forsaking one avocado toast a month for a search engine that actually works, but if I don’t feel good about where my money goes then I’m signficantly less willing.

          I like spending money on the things I use. The status of paying customer is an enviable position (minus the paying part).

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          How terrible that you have to pay for a product you use

          No one wanting to pay for anything is what got us into this mess in the first place

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    1 month ago

    Worth noting about Startpage: they’re part of System1, an American advertising/marketing company. Sytem1 claims that privacy is one of the biggest focuses though. Make of that what you will.

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    Very strange to put Kagi as “less private” when it’s the only non-self-hosted option that allows for completely private searches with their Privacy Pass tokens. You can access them with Tor, pay with crypto (not really that private though), and sign up with a fake email. https://kagi.com/privacy#anonymity

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      It isn’t marked as less private. It is grayed out because it is not based in Europe. I personally use them as I find them the best option with what is out there.

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        The text at the bottom says “kagi doesn’t collect any identifying data, but does require an account, so it is considered less private than the alternatives”.

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          I think that’s Walnut’s nod to the fact that PrivacyGuides still hasn’t wrapped their head around the concept of paid search.

          I haven’t seen any legitimate evidence that Kagi’s Privacy Pass is any less private than any other search option on the market, but long ago PG defined private search as “not requiring an account” and are completely locked up on that concept.

          Even though just about every VPN on the planet (and all of their recommended ones) require accounts, as do most of the other services they recommend. The world is just so used to “free” search (which just sells your data or your time) that they don’t know what to do with a new business model.

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          With fingerprinting and even just IP tracking, I think the question is more whether they can be trusted to not track you (i.e. whether it makes business sense).

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            But they allow access over Tor and their privacy tokens means they can’t tie your search to your account, so they both don’t get fingerprinting nor know who is even making the request.

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    I changed to Ecosia when I last saw this chart. It’s working really well and is my main search engine across all my devices now.

    But now I’m considering moving to Mojeek if that’s better for privacy.

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    How about just NOT supporting companies? Having an European company control what gets shown to you is not much of an improvement over having an American one do it…

    There are decentralized search engines like SearXNG

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      The problem with that philosophy is that SearXNG is an aggregator, so if everyone moved to them… who would be paying for the engines that it aggregates?

      I agree that no one should ever support a company. But rather establish a set of principles that you want the companies you use to follow, and show no loyalty if they break this.

      It is actually the philosophy of !PurchaseWithPurpose@lemmy.world.

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      Stract is impressive I don’t know what more people don’t know about it