• floofloof@lemmy.ca
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    6 days ago

    I’ve seen a lot of posts on Lemmy today arguing that Greta Thunberg is privileged, self-obsessed or self-promoting, that her actions are merely symbolic and useless, etc. I have to wonder whether these are part of a coordinated campaign. I hope we can all recognize someone who cares enough to put themselves in danger for the sake of others.

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        I take my time to request they explain their entire “argument” until they are so frustrated with their own inaccuracies they decide to stop commenting. Just had some fun with that yesterday. Make it clear to those who come after.

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      Greta literally risked her life for this. Israel killed ten people on the 2010 Gaza Freedom Flotilla. And Israel bombed the most recent one.

      The comments about Greta doing this for self promotion are pure Zionist bots. It is the de-facto Zionist retort after illegally kidnapping Greta in international waters. And the statement has very clearly been communicated from the top down at the Israeli Hasbara department.

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      6 days ago

      Sone of us are older and take issue with how much attention she is drawing while not really organizing anything. She’s a useful figurehead but there are people making her out to be akin to the American civil rights leaders of the past and she’s not doing what they did in terms of grassroots organization. She’s more Oprah, without the baggage she brings, than MLK.

      She’s neither the second coming of Christ nor is she a huckster. I think she’s a sometimes media darling who does work herself but does not seem to be building a movement but rather shows up to be the face of it.

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        Sone of us are older and take issue with how much attention she is drawing while not really organizing anything.

        Considerable funds have been spent to make you reach that conclusion, and think it’s accurate.

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          Not really, if you take some time you’ll see she herself isn’t going around and doing grunt work. A lot of money is also spent making you think she’s effective at what sheis doing.

          Im not saying she is doing nothing but there is a difference between what she is doing and what people who started up grassroots organizations did. If ypu look into her foundation they finance other groups and it is those people who are organizing.

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            Not really, if you take some time you’ll see she herself isn’t going around and doing grunt work. A lot of money is also spent making you think she’s effective at what sheis doing.

            You’ve been trained to be reflexively dismissive of what she does. This is to direct your thinking away from the specific cause at hand.

            You can verify this by the number of words you’ve typed in order to crap on Greta, compared to the number of words you’ve typed about the Crimes Against Humanity in Gaza being committed by Israel.

            You will behave identically the next time she speaks up on important issues.

            For you, it will always be about Greta, which will reduce your will to focus on the crisis at hand.

            You’ve been trained.

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                You need significant psychological help as you are delusional. You do not know me nor have I taken a pro-Israel position.

                Settle down, Sparky.

                I’m pointing out the actual topic, which isn’t Greta, and the fact that your sole axe to grind here is “Greta sux”, as you’ve been trained.

                Given that the IDF has killed aid workers, journalists, medical personnel, children, anyone they feel like, The entire crew of that ship was literally risking death, in order to break Israel’s blockade of food and aid to Palestinians.

                Your singular takeaway? Greta don’t impress me much.

                You’re profoundly unhelpful in the upward march of humanity.

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                  Someone commented how everyone who isn’t celebrating her is a bot and I explained a different take on that.

                  You then proceeded to pretend you know what I think and why and that is delusional as you do not know me at all.

                  You then proceed to suggest that I am brainwashed and a bad person because I don’t share your exact views which seems intensely hypocritical.

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        Huh? She’s done nothing but organize grassroot movements and civil disobedience since she was 15? MLK was 28 when he helped form the SCLC, Greta is 22 - give her some credit.

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          She has shown up. She hasn’t organized. Other people are doing that. Her foundation writes cheques.

          I am giving her credit for what she is actually doing

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            I’m certainly no expert on what she’s been doing, but how can you possibly make that assertion with that kind of conviction? How could you possibly know what she does vs what the people surrounding her are doing?

            More importantly, do you actually think past revolutionary figures were doing everything themselves? If she’s getting the people surrounding her to organize, then she is organizing them. That’s leadership. Plenty of historical figures of note are the figureheads because they were the ones writing the checks, that’s how things get done.