• rodneyck@piefed.social
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    3 days ago

    This is sad and says a lot about the dems…

    People speaking out against the Israel-Iran war:
    Marjorie Taylor Green
    Tucker Carlson
    Alex Jones
    Steve Bannon
    Matt Gaetz

    People who are silent:
    Obama
    Biden Hillary
    Kamala

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    6 days ago

    There’s more truth to this than there was to the wmds thing, we know Iran has enriched uranium up to 65% which is way more than you need for nuclesr power and only a bit short of the threshold for bombs.

    But it’s also entirely Trump and Israels fault in the first place, Iran were complying with Obamas nuclear deal then Israel convinced Trump to stop honouring it so Iran rightly did the same. It’s a problem they created in order to have an excuse to attack Iran.

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      3 days ago

      Here’s the thing. I don’t know how planned all of this is.

      The current war(s) clearly serves just to extend Netanyahu’s time in power as much as possible, because he knows that as soon as elections come, he’s out of the premiership and into (hopefully) jail.

      Now that tensions in Gaza have lessened, a war with Iran is the most obvious option. It’s true that Netanyahu convinced Trump to abandon the previous nuclear deal, but this was before his criminal indictment (minor point: but after the investigations) and I don’t know if he planned that far forward.

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      5 days ago

      I wouldn’t believe anything Israel is saying about this.

      Israel is full of shit, Netanyahu has been saying Iran is weeks away from a nuclear bomb for literally 30 years.

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        5 days ago

        That figure is from the IAEA, not Israel. Also it’s actually 60% and I misremembered.

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          5 days ago

          I don’t want anyone to have nuclear weapons but I can see why it’s in Iran’s best interest to acquire them.

          United States and Israel are literally arguing that by assassinating scientists and Iranian leaders, that Iran will be more likely to come to the negotiating table.

          Maybe that’s why Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th, so Israel would be more likely to negotiate?

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            5 days ago

            Yeah I’m not defending israels illegal actions, just sayings it’s at least based on something real unlike the fake wmds

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              5 days ago

              Israel is the one who gave us the false intelligence about Iraq having wmds. I imagine this is a repeat of that. But we do know that Iran uses uranium for electricity.

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                  So? Is it really that bad if Iran has nukes? It’s not like they’d be the only one’s in the region with them. Obviously it would be better if nobody had them, but in a MAD world, it’s just deterrence.

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    7 days ago

    Nothing new, the MSM has always been the propaganda mouthpiece for the gov’t and the war machine. Look for independent reporters, substack and the like, for real news.

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      7 days ago

      independent reporters, substack and the like, for real news.

      But they don’t hand out branded tote bags that I can take to brunch to let the gals know I donated…