Oh you mean the online topic shit the establishment keeps trying to force feed us. Yea, people need to stop biting that hook. It only legitimizes it like you said.

When I read “ignore their bullshit” I thought you meant taking the Enlightened Centrist™ stance of “turn the other cheek and let them tire out. Don’t start a scene cause it will disturb everyone” type nonsense, as if what they spout isn’t disturbing in itself.

I feel Duke, Torgue, and Sal would make for a dialogue that is as equally epic as it is brain rotting.

Italy is also home of the people who responded to that regime by dragging Mussolini and his wife’s bodies after their assassination across the country back to Milan, where they were unceremoniously dumped in a town square to be humiliated and desecrated, then hung on girders above a service station in the square by their ankles until they fell and subsequently were buried in unmarked graves.

I have some criticisms of how some of the points were made but none that are exactly relevant to the current topic. So, I’ll just say that I don’t fully agree with what is said here.

Nonetheless, the ending, main point is still in agreement.

“Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented”. —Elie Wiesel, Holocaust survivor and famous author

The issue with ignoring them is they, as well as those being targeted by the oppressive rhetoric, will take the silence as tacit approval. Those who espouse it will be encouraged to further push boundaries of what is tolerable while the victims will be made to feel unsafe existing in public.

This is the point of the “Nazi Bar” story where you kick people out at the first sign of it 'cause, if you don’t and just ignore them, they’ll soon begin to bring all their friends who espouse much worse rhetoric and, soon after that, suddenly you find yourself running the local Nazi Bar as they made everyone else feel unsafe and ran them off, which was their goal from the beginning.

I don’t want them to succeed in their goal.

Yes, it might be effective in getting a rise out of them sometimes to ignore them to their face, but I don’t care about them or their reaction. I care about the people around us who have to listen and be made to feel unsafe existing in the community and to let those people know that there are others in the community who will stand up for them and be willing to put themselves at risk for their sake; to know with confidence that, when push comes to shove, we will stand beside them.

It is an incredibly niche part of the gender nonconformity movement in that some nonbinary individuals don’t want to use the neutral “they”, and instead want unique pronouns such as “xi/xir” or some such.

I personally don’t agree with it. I’ll just continue to use the singular “they”, as it is gender neutral and works independently of where the individual being referred to sits on the gender spectrum, or use their name, as it is already the unique designation to refer to the specific individual.

People should learn that it’s okay to differ from opinions

Up to a certain point, then you’re crossing the paradox of tolerance. Where that point exactly lies is the issue, and unfortunately many people refuse to practice introspection of their own beliefs to find where that point actually is and will instead just try to force their biases of what is tolerable or not onto others.

You literally just explained why this is an unpopular opinion. It isn’t that it is shocking, it is just disappointing that it is an intrinsic flaw of human cognition to be resistant to challenging our own preconceived beliefs and are prone to letting bias cloud our judgement.

Just in case, for the non-Americans from regions that do not have the specific brand, the sub name is in reference to prepackaged “Uncle Ben’s Ready Rice” which is used in this specific mushroom growing tek.

I don’t really care what they think. If that’s the hill they want to die on, then let them fucking die.

The point of dissenting isn’t to convince them. It is to stand in their way and say “you’re gonna quit this bullshit or we are gonna fucking make you.”

Yes, the state hierarchy has employed authoritarian violence against the people of the region… which will inevitably happen any time workers attempt to threaten the power of the dominant system and take back control over what is rightfully theirs from an unjust authority. That is just the logical outcome. It was the same when Feudalism’s system of absolute monarchy was being threatened by the growing popularity of capitalist Liberalism’s system of constitutional monarchy.

Hierarchical authority enforces its power over the people through implied violence of the system. “Obey the law (i.e. the will of those who hold authority in written form) or we will arrest/fine you (i.e. restrict your personal autonomy and/or access to goods and services).” When people disobey that system and disregard the threat of implied violence, it will always resort to employing overt violence to maintain their enforcement of their authority through the institution that is known as the police. This is why we say ACAB.

It just means workers need to be prepared for it so they can stand their ground and exert their own authority, even by engaging in their own acts of violence if necessary. All authority must enforce its control for it to be considered legitimate afterall.

Or the much closer Zapatistas.

Couldn’t be more proud of every one of those workers. Take back what is yours, boys!

Fuck the Panama State for, as expected, employing authoritarian violence against workers standing up to oppression from a soulless corporate entity.

Goes to show who the state really cares about. It isn’t the people.

“Do not, my friends, become addicted to water. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence.” — Immortan Joe

Happening all over the globe. The capitalist hegemony is getting scared because their system is collapsing in on itself and, through the imperial boomerang, are beginning to employ practices only performed abroad on the interior in order to maintain their power. The US is just far ahead of the curve due to its lack of a functioning political leftwing keeping things in check.

Now is most certainly the time for people to unionize and start relearning why unions formed in the first place: so workers can band together to exert their political will and take ownership over their workplace from a parasitic class that has only ever existed to exploit our labor.

No, it wouldn’t be. There are strict limitations on the sale and use of cadavers. They can only be sold for the purpose of education or research. You’ll never find a dead body being used for a YouTube video, at least not “legally”. Don’t be hyperbolic. Besides, if you know how bodies are used for science, even medical science, it is far from what most would call “respectful”. You either are sent to a school so that students can get their hands all up in your guts for anatomical familiarization through dissection or to practice medical procedures on then summarily discarded (usually cremated and sent back to the family once its usefulness has run its course), dismembered to have its parts and organs sold individually to different research sites for the purpose of testing pharmaceuticals or be purposely infected with diseases to observe their effects on tissue then also summarily discarded as bio-waste, or used for forensic science as your corpse is allowed to rot in the sun for observation on a body farm.

You know how medical science tests the effects of smoking on the lungs? Other than simply looking at the lungs of those who smoked in life, they take healthy lungs and hook them up to a pump to force it to “smoke” and then observe how it affected the tissue.

Anyways, back to the overall point…

The term “respect” is highly arbitrary. People in the US respect a lot of things, just not the same things that you respect, nor will they respect them in the same manner if you do share a mutual respect of something. Is that problematic? It entirely depends on the specific subject matter and those involved. The topic of “what is respectful” is a lot more nuanced and intersectional to why certain things have been glorified or deemed worth respecting while others have been disregarded in certain cultures and regions. Even then, it always comes down to each individual and their personal interpretation of reasoning. Thus, again, making blanket, simplistic statements is naive and not useful for discussion.

This is why I focused my point on ownership instead of subjective aspects. The only person whose input on “respectful use” that ultimately matters is the person who has ownership over the object being used, which in this case is a cadaver.

Personally, I don’t understand the notion of “respect the dead”; we’re dead, our consent and opinion don’t really matter anymore past the point of death. I especially don’t understand it in regards to handling of cadavers; they are simply inanimate objects that need to be disposed of, as they will rot and be vectors for diseases if left unattended, nothing more. If people can find uses for them, all the better.

Of fucking course it’s a Trump appointed judge who taught the class and gave out the reward.

Students need to riot until the reward is rescinded and, preferably, the Judge who taught the class is removed from the position. Make both of those motherfuckers terrified to show their faces on campus. Nazi pieces of shit.

Fuck the weak ass interim dean for trying to defend this on the grounds of “we have to remain neutral. He has the right to free speech”. Fuck that “we must tolerate the intolerant” bullshit.

Thankfully, good news, the student was exposed for espousing Nazi rhetoric on Twitter and was subsequently suspended and is barred from campus. He is trying to challenge the suspension which is putting him at risk of expulsion. I fucking hope they throw the book at this Nazi fuck.

The problem is you still care about companies. I don’t. My position isn’t “fuck the current players for not innovating” it is “fuck them for exploiting the needs of people, in this specific instance the need of transportation, for profits and their unjust system of private ownership that allows for it to occur.”

The only thing Chinese cars being shipped here does is provide more cars. That’s a good thing for people who need cars. Anything beyond this isn’t my concern. I don’t care if it is bad for the owners of companies; that’s the fault of the system that requires them to compete for profit in order to be a valid business under the capitalist system. Manufacturing in this country can adapt and change their production and distribution to a different economic model, or they can get fucked honestly. If they don’t, then, eventually, the system that gives them control over these resources will collapse, which to me is a good thing, and then people can take back control of what is rightfully ours from the parasitic class, and we can change the economic model without the need for their input.

All of your arguments are still based around the capitalist system. I don’t care about it, if my needs and desires make it “bad for business”, then boohoo. Change the system so it is no longer a problem. The interests of companies and their owners mean nothing to me.

So your solution is change the whole system so you can buy a dumped Chinese car without any guilt?

And for the record, I wasn’t attacking you personally. I was calling you out for using rhetoric, quoted above, that was deliberately phrased to undermine my argument. That was a bad faith argument and I was heated as I didn’t appreciate my argument being blatantly misrepresented.

Never said a reliance. Just because they dump cars here doesn’t mean we lose our abilities to make our own. It just means we have more cars available. Which is a good thing. The only thing it is bad for is owners of business under the capitalist system but fuck the owners of businesses under the capitalist system.