I would say never disengage. We’ve all lost so much disengaging especially if the argument is difficult. It leaves the argument unchallenged and if you can’t answer it and you feel strongly about trans issues what did you think someone casually viewing it would think.

We need better arguments and we need honesty. If it’s a good argument, it’s a good argument denying it out of feels only weakens the entire thing.

Lemmy is filled with people who gave the right a red carpet treatment. Probably the last place we should ask questions about engagement to.

It’s like asking r/relationship about relationship advice. It’s a terrible idea

But like what if we just had schools present the work. Then the work force was reasonable for testing if a candidate’s knowledge was acceptable. This way the onus is on the student. If they don’t learn, that’s on them. Professors are there to give work and grade in the sense that they challenge students to be critical of their own work. Did they cite, are the arguments logical or poor. Did they meet or exceed expectations. If they cheated… I think I see the problem. Hmmm not sure I just think maybe school should be less a mill and more about the responsibility of the student and that the workforce is responsible for determining if someone has the skills. We’ve just really relied on education system for something it isn’t. It’s really a glorified daycare that business offloaded some responsibility on to

Oh you got me. You’re right. People online are very in touch with reality

Don’t let the random deter you online. The online crowd are very out of touch

Maybe we need a new way to approach school. I don’t think I agree with turning education into a competition where the difficulty is curved towards the most competitive creating a system that became so difficult that students need to edge each other out any way they can.

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Saddam insane isn’t going to be happy about this

I have never known a North American protest to succeed at anything in my lifetime.

Yea this is what I’m hearing from my dad as well. He’s tuned into right wing media.

There was a time when it use to be that I was more informed then him. Something has changed. Hanging out on left wing social spaces has put me so far behind the information curve.

On left wing spaces I see a lot of angry reactions but nothing really informative about a current event. But then I talk to my dad and he’s got all these facts which I argue like an asshole only to find out my sources were lacking not his. It’s so frustrating.

Found some information

https://www.reddit.com/r/behindthebastards/comments/1lbggh1/i_found_vance_boelter_on_a_website_that_is_now/

My right leaning dad is saying this today. They’re being told the Iranian military is doing to seize control

They’re fucking brainwashed. They equate just protesting with some victory in their heads. No matter how small, every protest is some achievement

That’s not working. Just talking about it isn’t an accomplishment. Fuck

I listen to a bunch of media everyday but it’s not like we have a platform to share it with each other. Like if I found a decent Sam Seder clip, where am I posting it?

Yeah, people create stuff online without getting paid all the time. We literally built the Internet that way. Go back to the early days forums, blogs, dumb memes, personal websites, fan videos none of that was about money. People made stuff just to share it, to be part of something, or just because they wanted to.

It’s only after financial incentives got introduced ads, sponsorships, “influencer” money that everything started getting worse. Suddenly it’s all algorithm-chasing. Everyone’s copying each other, following trends, tweaking thumbnails, timing posts. The content got way more polished, surebut also way more boring. It’s all the same stuff over and over.

So yeah, people deserve to get paid if that’s what they want. But pretending like people only create if they’re paid is just wrong. Humans naturally create. Always have. We write songs, we draw, we tell jokes. Money didn’t start that, it ruined it. It made it a job. It made it about likes and reach and SEO. It turned the internet into a shopping mall.

Now everything online feels fake. Safe. Recycled. All because the moment you attach money to something, people start optimizing for profit instead of originality. That’s the trade-off.

There’s a whole place here called fuck AI. It’s people’s entire identity now. So yes

Need more Democrats to sit and wave cardboard signs. Need more protests to run head first into riot shields. Need more leftist to leave social media spaces wide open. Need more Faygo.

Then maybe things will be different

I fucking love these guys who show up and are like

Akshually…

Totally dismissing the current thing.

I’m cynical because I think the left needs a big wake up call. We all talk about being critical thinkers and intelligent and they’re dumb and we’re smart. But we have lost everything the past few decades. I don’t just mean politically. The Internet was seized by the right. All these channels. Influencers. They Sid Meier “Civ 6” culture bombed us while we were fucking around with our tech tree.

I don’t see how a protest does anything. They can ratchet up the aggression far quicker then we can. I fully believe the people yelling the loudest right now will be the first to go home when the risk increases.

I’m hoping people do get mad at me. But then realize they’re also cynical and doing the same shit with everything going on around them. We need to be more critical and we all need to be more cynical because maybe that might motivate change.

There is better ways. Fight through culture. It’s insane to think we’re winning against armed trained thugs. We need to do what they did. They pay for these bots and influencers. We need to do it organically. Lemmy should be a generator of this stuff. Instead we’re posting about beans and Ed Sheeran. Like I found a clip with Sam Seder the other day that was cool. Thought maybe I’d post it here. There’s no fucking where to post that content. I can post headlines.

I think about this all the time. Kids today have no experience of the media without ads. Like we had commercials, but imagine Mr. Rogers stopping his show every 5 mins to sell you athletic greens and test boosters.

This image has a totally different context today then when it was first created

Anyways, these kids will grow up and make even worse and more annoying ads. They’ll be the next Gen of marketing executives in a decade or two. There’s nothing we can do about it.

Nice I love it. We didn’t stop ads years ago. Content creators deserve to be paid right guys. Right!!

Maybe the next Internet we can be more proactive. Whenever that is