Seems like I’m not in the target audience for these ads. I have absolutely zero clue what any of the things mentioned above are. I use WhatsApp to send messages.

I have a tendency to present my views in a provocative way, so I don’t exactly fault people for misreading me or my intentions.

that there is any celebration of vigilantism at all?

Pretty much, yeah. I think violence should, for the most part, only ever be a response to immediate violence - not a tool for political or ideological expression. I believe in due process, reason, and honest discourse as the means to influence those we oppose - not bullets, or even fists. So when people cheer for acts of vigilante violence, even against those they despise, I see that as both morally bankrupt and strategically self-defeating. It undermines the claim to the moral high ground and reinforces the very hostility many claim to oppose. We should hold ourselves to the same standards as we do others.

is that correct?

Mostly yeah.

It’s not unclear to me why people feel differently toward the victims - what I’m pointing out is the inconsistency in how people react to vigilante violence itself. I’m not asking anyone to mourn a murdered healthcare CEO - though I do question the celebration of it. And likewise, I feel sympathy for the recently murdered politicians.

What I’m criticizing is the double standard in how the shooters are treated.

And it’s not really about political leanings specifically, even if there’s overlap. It’s more about the broader “us vs. them” mentality - where people’s moral judgment flips depending on which side they perceive someone to be on.

Well, Ozempic will make you lean, but it won’t make you fit or muscular - so there’s still that. In that sense, it might be more accurate to say that the people opposing it are likely those who’ve gotten lean through dieting and occasional exercise, rather than bodybuilders.

I’m more than happy to elaborate on any of my unpopular opinions that you view as trolling. I’m very much sharing my honest views here.

Sure, let’s go. But if your argument is as strong as you seem to think it is, you shouldn’t need to wrap it in this condescension and chest-thumping. I’m always open for an debate - but if the tone stays at “let me enlighten your dumb little mind,” I’ll check out rather quick. I’m here to discuss ideas, not trade insults.

Now, I’ll be the first to admit my original comment was intentionally provocative but I stand by the underlying point: I oppose vigilante violence across the board, regardless of who the target is. And if someone cheered for Luigi’s killing but condemns this one, I think that’s morally inconsistent. That’s what I was calling out - a double standard that, to me atleast, reeks of tribalism more than principle.

Yeah but it used to be. Even Kat Von D is blacking out her tattoos so that it would be more provocative again which is how she likes it.

It gives me value - unlike the smug, unsolicited moral judgement of a stranger.

Agreed. Should be bumpy like a washboard.

My SO would never let me shave mine. It’s also a good way to immediately change my appereance/look 10 years younger if I ever want/need to.

People speculate that this is one of the reasons why those most opposed to weight loss medications like Ozempic are, in fact, fit people. In a world where most people around you are obese or unhealthy, being fit becomes a way to signal discipline, long-term planning, a healthy lifestyle, competence, and so on. But now that you can get lean without putting in the effort, it dilutes that signal.

Not a beauty standard per se, but I don’t like tattoos one bit.

It used to be “rebellious” to have a tattoo, but nowadays it seems like everyone has one - so maybe the truly rebellious thing now is not having them.

Depending on what definition you use, chatGPT could be considered to be intelligent.

• The ability to acquire, understand, and use knowledge.
• The ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations.
• The ability to apply knowledge to manipulate one’s environment or to think abstractly as measured by objective criteria (such as tests).
• The act of understanding.
• The ability to learn, understand, and make judgments or have opinions that are based on reason.
• It can be described as the ability to perceive or infer information; and to retain it as knowledge to be applied to adaptive behaviors within an environment or context.

I don’t like that part about it either but instead of stopping using it, I simply told it to stop acting that way.

It’s not a place for incivility that I’m making, either. I just struggle to believe you genuinely don’t understand what people mean when they ask for less moderation or censorship.

In many cases, especially early on, it’s possible that medication can achieve a state of mental calmness and focus that’s beyond what the baseline is for neurotypicals.

Now vigilante murder is bad when the victim is “one of us,” but when it was “one of them,” it was all cheers and applause.

It’s a term used to describe a group of people. This is just making up stuff to get offended by.

Nobody is asking for an unmoderated space.

I know. I don’t see how that invalidates my criticism.