You’re strawman arguing with yourself. Nowhere, not once, have I stated we shouldn’t. I’ve only stated the true, which is space is not habitable for humans. Perhaps your uninformed as to what habitable means. Perhaps your deranged. I’ve no clue. But if you continue, I just want you to know, you’re arguing with yourself.
You’re one of the people I hate when it comes to this. You see insane engineering challenges as just easy because thousands of very clever engineers have already spent billions and their lifetimes working it out for you, but you’re so far from actually understanding the science and challenges in their full depth. Nobody has lived in space for 25 years. No human has been raised in space. These challenges are not just from 0g and your theoretical radiation shielding has not been proven nor is it just as easy as “surround yourself with your water supply”. None. Of. Space. Is. Easy. Living on this planet is as easy as being born. If it wasn’t for millions of people constantly working to feed the societial machine that let’s us even have a few people in orbit at a time, with constant launches to resupply, as well as other considerations, it would be impossible. Even the iss you mention is being deorbited in 2027 because it’s not long-term sustainable and has developed untraceable leaks. I cannot believe how easy you think it is. You’re hopelessly lost in the sauce there buddy.
“I disagree completely” with a statement that’s never been disproven in the entire existence of our species?.. This is literally an article about long term astronauts suffering a serious medical complication, and that’s not even a lifetime up there. You think we could have a baby and raise it in orbit? You understand the radiation shielding isn’t perfect? You understand there are unexplained medical complications in bone density, muscle density, and heart function for returning astronauts? You understand that new bacterial and microbial colonies have manifested in the iss and we don’t know anything about the long-term effects that will have?
“Energy is easier in space”
Alright, here you’re just brazenly wrong. Energy is so so much more difficult in space due to the vacuum. Managing thermal effects is exponentially more difficult, and it’s not as easy as just “slap some solar panels up” are you even familiar with the failure rate of solar panels due to space debris? Even the smallest of micro debris can pick up significant momentum with no atmospheric drag and slight gravitational acceleration.
The budget is one thing we agree on. We spend vastly more than that on yachts so it’s not even an issue. I don’t believe you have any idea how difficult space really is though, and I encourage you to study it further because it’s not the escape you hope it will be. Not in our lifetimes. Not without a miracle.
Because, as this article points out, space is not currently habitable. Additionally, I think you’re missing my point. If we can’t solve a social problem like that here, I don’t see how we’ll solve it by making it much harder with things like medical complications from flat eyes. That’s before we get into the bevy of other problems in medical, manufacturing, and energy that are inherent to space. Space is not like our earth, practically divinely engineered for us by sheer luck. To quote many a NASA staff member “Space is hard”. But I’m not saying that means don’t do it, I’m saying it means have your priorities straight because we all need to save this insanely perfect planet first. It’s going to be way easier to do that than to “move on and start fresh”. You’re not in the old pioneering days where you could just take a ship to another land and start anew. This beyond wasn’t mean for us as we are, but as we will be.
The earth is immeasurably more inhabitable and solvable than any achieveable planetary body we know of. If you can’t solve the problems here first. You more than likely cannot solve the problems at all.
Bringing non-disposable technology to China is a mistake in most circumstances.
Never said it’s not, just saying we have to ensure we live here first because we don’t even know if interplanetary habitation is viable. We assume so, but in cases like this, we learn that there are variables uncounted that must be.
Agreed
Definitely not anti space sentiment, to clarify. I love the space program and funding it fully with public dollars has historically led to massive returns in scientific discoveries we use daily. Memory foam, aerogels, paints, etc. I’m just venting about the people (who I’ve talked to irl) who hype space so hard they disregard how important it is to look back towards our mother planet before we set our dreams on the next. IE “So what if Earth has problems, we’ll just colonize Mars” without acknowledging the inherent and extreme environmental challenges that exist in that unknown that don’t exist on our shockingly perfect little flying rock we have here.
It’s almost like we should stop destroying this perfect insanely unique and suitable planet we live on until we’ve reached a level of bioengineering that allows us to artificially adapt to the significant environmental challenges of interplanetary travel…
Zero tier. I went tailscale originally, and they’re good, but their mdns support doesn’t exist and several services rely on it. (For me, the showstopper was time machine backups)
It lives on in the halls of financial mainframes, next to his uncle Cobal.
Yeah, Science!
No cap. That’s what it’s there for bud, glad you enjoy it. ✊ Just remember this when a pal is suffering from eye searing whiteness and requests a dark mode haha.
I’m happy for the wife. This likely voids their prénup, assuming they included standard clauses.
Fair, I was trying to be cheeky and here you are shutting me up with a compiler level “nope”. Take your +1.
This country has never liked protestors, but constantly claims it’s the only way to secure change peacefully… At least they didn’t get shot. Kent State should’ve launched new, extensive, and inaliénable rights for all protestors. It’s a shame it did not.
Are you sure? From what I can tell there’s a 5 in 6 chance of catastrophic failure.
About to be 6.0000001% when my Kubuntu download finishes. I’m finally taking the dive boys, linux on main here we go.
If you equated stop destroying the planet with stopping space development, that’s on you. I clarified my stance in a comment below it minutes later.
I take offense to you and people like you thinking space is habitable or easy instead of insanely environmentally challenging, unknown, and complex. Seeing it as an escape instead of the immense and violent challenge it is. It’s disrespectful to both life and the accomplishments of those before you.
So yes, you are deranged. I’ve not attempted any gaslighting. You continue to argue with yourself, ignore nuances, and call my logic faulty when it’s not. You hand wave immense complexities of shit you **do not understand ** just because you’ve seemingly read the wiki on it. It’s astounding. You even think space is habitable, which it is undebatbly at this time, not, and that’s before comparing it to our immeasurably more habitable planet. The frustration I experience reading the shit you post is from this inherent fallacy you’ve attached yourself to. I even agreed with the immense increase in space funding you asked for, explicitly, and yet you seemingly doubt my alignment to continued scientific development.