With Reddit, specifically, they seem pretty hardcore about rolling back profile “cleansing.” I think the effort failed, sadly, as did a lot of Reddit uproar.

Because that’s exactly what Trump supporters do: don’t think critically, just blindly, loyally assume the opposition must always be incorrect.

It’s not about supporting him or not, it has nothing to do with that. It’s about seeing through objectively false posts (often posted for money, attention, or simply from gut feelings) and people cheering them on, which is exactly what has empowered Trump and given his supporters something to point to painting them as victims of lies.

You should set aside any thought about Trump and look at the material first. That’s critical thinking, in a nutshell.

Or you can play the engagement hate game that got that man into office.

Crypto is super volatile, like perpetual RNG volatile, which is a little more out-of-the-way in the stock market.

It’s also how we got Trump. We overfed the troll.

Does old.reddit.com still work? It used to not even require a login for NSFW.

I dunno if it’s on purpose, but you make a good point.

Well, ML is kinda toxic right now, and even a hint of “let’s draft community notes with a language model” is going to be shot down by the huge fediverse anti-AI community. So I think that’s, unfortunately, a non-starter.

And again, mods purely doing it would be problematic.

It seems like a great idea to me, but I’m just not sure how it would be implemented.

nothing Trump says really has any meaning.

This is reductive. Why report on anything he says then? But for the sake of argument let’s go with that.

When he says something happened “in the past”, it could mean it happened at literally any time previously, it could mean he expects it to happen soon and as such is an inevitability so he just says it already happened

So how do you go from that to concluding:

othing from that “context” makes me any less likely to believe he found out what Nvidia was minutes before taking the stage

You’re not making any sense. You’re saying “nothing Trump says really has any meaning,” effectively refuting his whole quote, while somehow holding up the conclusion that he “found out what Nvidia was minutes before taking the stage” with, per your own standards you just emphasized, zero evidence, out of thin air.

So which is it? Is his whole quote invalid?

There might be typos from the auto-transcription.

On the backend, Twitter must use some kind of (pre-LLM) language model to aggregate the sentiment of comments? I’ve never used Twitter before; how is it generated? Do mods post it or something?

Lemmy could theoretically do that, but it’d either have to hit an API, host it with their server resources, or lean on potentially power-tripping/busy human mods to do it.

Here’s the actual video source, skipped to the relevant context:

https://youtu.be/BrTT7dX0mcQ?t=851

And if you don’t want that, a clip of the auto transcript I ripped from YouTube:

…And a very special thanks to some of the top industry leaders including somebody that’s amazing. I said, “Look, we’ll break this guy up.” This is before I learned the facts of life. I said, “We’ll break them up.” They said, “No, sir. It’s very hard.” I said, “Why?” I said, “What percentages of the market does he have?” I said, “He has 100%.” I said, “Who the hell is he? What’s his name?” His name is Jensen Wong. Nvidia. I said, “What the hell is Nvidia? I’ve never heard of it before.” He said, “You don’t want to know about it, sir.” I figured we could go in and we could sort of break them up a little bit, get them a little competition. And I found out it’s not easy in that business. I said, “Supposing we put the greatest minds together. They work hand in hand for a couple of years.” He said, “No, it would take at least 10 years to catch him if he ran Nvidia totally incompetently from now on.” So, I said, “All right, let’s go on to the next one.” And then I got to know Jensen, and now I see why. Jensen, will you stand up? What a job. What a job you’ve done, man. Great. It’s a great He’s a great guy, too. Lisa…

Trump’s clearly referencing learning about Nvidia in the past, and getting to know Jensen. He’s telling a story about pondering breaking up Nvidia and putting together a government chip development effort before he learned the finer details on what they do. Tom’s headline, on the other hand:

President Trump threatened to break up Nvidia, didn’t even know what it was — ‘What the hell is Nvidia? I’ve never heard of it before’

Is worded to imply Trump ‘threatened’ Nvidia blindly, or that he didn’t know who Nvidia is during or just before the speech, cherry picking a quote with no context. It’s technically plausibly deniable.

Call it what you want, but that is classic tabloid journalism from Tom’s.

The headline contradicts what Trump was saying. It sort of contradicts their own article.

I had a few people come to me asking when Nvidia starting surfacing in investor/finance land. And one for AI work.

EDIT: Also, I’m bookmarking that quote, thanks.

No worries, I got the idea (and was a tad blunt clarifying). And yeah, for sure.

To expand on my perspective, I’ve encountered genuinely curious comments about link sourcing, questionable but popular sites and such. It reminds me there are young folks or newcomers still learning those concepts and “characters” of the internet, and I mean that with no intended condescension to anyone.

Yeah. To be fair, everyone’s gotta slowly learn that.

But I think it’s fair for communities/mods to lay down posting standards, unless it’s like an explicit shitposting community.

I’m not accusing anyone here of being a bot or shill.

But I think information hygiene is super, super important, lest the Fediverse meet the same fate as the rest of the internet.

To PC gamers and hardware nerds. Not to the average person or the high levels of US politics.

As I often say, Lemmy skews really techy, but most people don’t know anything about this stuff.

This is a clickbait headline from Tom’s, as that’s not how the speech was worded. Per their own cherry picked quotes

Trump continued, "I said, ‘Who the hell is he? What’s his name?’ 'His name is Jensen Huang, Nvidia, ’ I said, ‘What the hell is Nvidia?’ I’ve never heard of it before.

The context being he had never really heard of Nvidia before they got so high profile, like most of the US population.

Tom’s does this all the time; they’re notorious for it in the PC Hardware news community.

Yes Trump is an idiot and his speeches are stupid, but can we please not have ragebait stretching it even more?

I’m sorry to keep bringing this up and getting so sour, but I feel like Lemmy’s information hygiene is deteriorating, and we’re happily upvoting it away. Big community mods need to put their foots down and put up basic soft rules, like:

• Link the original source (in this case the NBC video), link the place you found it in the description if you wish.

• Check the Wikipedia perennial news table (which, to be fair, Tom’s isn’t in yet): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources

• Try to avoid ragebait

It’s morbidly amusing that spammers all use the same service, the same way (the cheapest OpenAI API, I guess? Which is notorious for this style.)

And a silver lining. I could finetune a dirt cheap open model as a SEO/Engagement bot with very different styles, but ‘spammer culture’ seems to mass around the most popular denomenators when they find one. With such uniformity, I could also train a mediocre detector, based on overused tokens and something similar to the ‘slop profiles’ of EQ-Bench: https://eqbench.com/creative_writing.html

(This is based on a storywriting prompt, but social media ‘vocabulary’ could be profiled the same way).

In other words, its fortunate the spambots are such overpriced junk when they could easily not be.

For most? We’re already there, fellow human. 💀😅🧠

TBH I think it needs more mods/participants in existing communities before it starts sharding into more.

In other words, it’s the same problem I observe in many software dev communities: instead of building a new wheel, it’d be better to contribute to existing ones (and facilitate that discovery for others).

And, on that note, I think Lemmy needs better default algorithms to surface them.