Real smart buddy you already lost your Sarcasm Allowed Award

No I’m not spreading apathy and I support the communist party of Russia as well as the economic development of Asia. Please stop doing the fucking Adam Curtis monologue about how Putin is psychically poisoning society it’s so overdone and irrelevant. Your country has a problem with Russia because it has nationalized its oil supply and other resources, and is contributing to a trade and monetary system that is increasingly independent of the dollar. If Russia stayed in full post-USSR collapse Yeltsin policy mode and refused to develop at all there would be no issue and Germany would take the cheap energy, but that’s just not really possible since the country is one of the few geographically capable of autarky.

This isn’t a pissing match between countries this is about neocolonialism and Germany’s leadership is fighting for its place within that system rather than integrating based on geography and resources. Stop repeating the same old con to me. Russia isn’t a great power or Sauron to real development economists. It’s just got the kind of backbone Europe and the US have repeatedly bombed out of Middle East and African nations, and just failed to bomb out of Iran. Germany cannot have that backbone until you give up being one of porky’s favorite little slaves.

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Japan essentially committed economic suicide so that its ruling class could continue to benefit from financialization. Lot of theorists predicted that European and Japanese industry would cause issues for the US because they misunderstood how the sovereignty of bourgeois democracies is tied to neocolonial relationships now. Instead it’s China upending the whole system. The infrastructure and social services they provide, the well-structured overall and increasingly industrialized agriculture, the energy autarky you mentioned, this all keeps the costs of its industry highly competitive, but it’s the land reform, management of capital, industry competition, and sustainment of the talent pool through employment, education, and childcare that makes all this possible. Best I can say about Germany is there is a better effort to sustain the talent pool with education and childcare. The rest of the stuff is mandatory and business + political leaders can’t take any deep lessons because admitting that rent seeking is fundamentally fucking up everything is impossible because rent seeking is the whole point of the system they uphold. This problem is as deep as the philosophy, history, economics, poli sci departments in all of these countries, you can’t just push back against economic dogma designed to enable capitalists with wicked policy logic these people are all evil lawyers abiding by the rules, which simply describe what rich people want to do.

That’s really my whole point, I’m not just starting a pissing match here, although it can be funny. Without understanding where the US first world allied countries fit into global trade, capital & debt flows, we’re just comparing different policies as if we can just select them in a video game research tree arbitrarily.

I’m sorry but you can’t go behead all of the oligarchs in Russia until you take care of your own. They’re just distracting you. “You can’t have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat.”

No not Russia, do you even know any other countries? It’s China. If you can’t even read + only understand the most rigid statements, I’m not going to bother.

Germany cannot do any of the things you are proposing because it is not even politicians who make these decisions, it is investors, who will put their money wherever it is most profitable. Fundamentally this is different from a nation which has capital controls, industrial planning, and is not reliant on energy & manufacturing inputs from lower-income countries. This is why we are seeing industry in the highly financialized core countries decline: it’s more profitable for investors, who are increasing labor costs by charging workers in these countries as much as possible for housing, goods, and essential services. To talk of a concerted effort to make more solar panels or missiles domestically under this political system is just entertainment. A haphazard thought experiment

Look if you’re going to write fanfiction about Russia in every single reply it’s just reinforcing stereotypes about the surly German mindset. Stop trying to make me interested in your elections, they don’t fundamentally change the financial relationship between the US and Germany. That is the crux of the original point about the US anointing itself Germany’s top energy provider by eliminating Russia. The people you are talking about cutting the US off would never do it, it’s like talking about Europe rearming and becoming responsible for its military instead of the US, it’s a media debacle without any substance. Adding this whole lesser evil angle where Putin is personally replacing your toilet paper with 2 ply doesn’t add the 𝑛𝑢𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒 that is intended when we’re missing the core relationship between the US and Europe since WWII when it took over the colonial empires and established the modern international debt system.

I read a pop science article about heat pumps

How solipsistic bro

The entire basis of the reduction of German energy use has been the export of manufacturing, you can’t then sanction the main manufacturer of green tech and have your revolution, I mean every aspect of this is failing in front of our eyes lol playing this blame game won’t help you

We’re talking about the industrial capacity required for a green revolution, though! Aside from energy prices, that requires maintaining a stable talent pool of engineers, many different kinds of skilled workers! Just massacring the whole gas car industry isn’t even a good idea for that sake. We’re working from completely different premises. You’re just fitting anything to this Russia bad narrative you possibly can and you have zero interest in the structure of the neocolonial financial system that keeps the German ruling class in sync with the US in the first place. I should come back with a more serious post that lays out the parameters of this whole discussion instead of having you recite every conspiracy theory you can concoct, this is probably the fifth essay I’ve given an IOU for so at this point though so no promises.

You can’t decry a recession caused by evil Russian spies and then turn around and say the things which are contributing to that recession are good. Using your measure of recession is fraudulent anyways since western economists count everything from rent increases to stocks to legal fees to German hookers as GDP and it isn’t a realistic figure for industry or the livelihoods of actual workers

No I’m pointing out that Germany’s decisions about the energy market are driven by its participation in the US system, financialization neocolonialism and sanctions are the priority, not anticorruption, green energy, and industrialism as claimed. Quite the opposite

You have failed at every level of basic research here lmao Russia was German’s largest provider of all kinds of fossil fuel sources, and what country do you guess is the second largest? Trying to downplay the US as being “only the largest provider of energy” when the prior one had been bringing in three times as much. I mean let’s just not talk about prices at all right? Once we get into prices this is going to be a very bad look for you.

It would quite literally be in Russia’s best interest to have bilateral economic agreements with Germany increasing industrial capacity, geographically these neighboring regions have immense possibilities in rail transit networks for tourism and trade, and this whole division between them suits only Wall St, Brussels, London etc, it’s not in the national interest of Germany at all but the ruling class interest. So I hope that pretending evil spies and not the entire political and business leadership of Germany sold out the green revolution helps you sleep at night. Don’t forget to keep the heat down this winter could be even pricier. That’s not the issue - not being able to make cars and solar panels competitively is the issue

Notice how you count the percentage of natural gas which the US provides, but not the half of Germany’s natural gas that it was getting from Russia. Russia doesn’t have any hand in you destroying your entire industrial capacity because the US told you to. Yes, in this situation losing even 6% of your energy will be crushing because you haven’t yet diversified your energy sources by lowering costs significantly (again industry, which is dependent on labor and energy prices). Cutting out nuclear has made this all even more devastating

“Watched” as in you greedily slopped up everything coming out of the German press about this and repeat it as gospel. You’re truly warped if you’ve convinced yourself that blowing up the pipeline was in German’s national interest. Are you one of Bareback’s goblins or something?

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Stop, I’m going to do a spit take. Look, I would love for Europe to go full solarpunk but that would take sudden growth of industrial capacity beyond its wildest dreams, not maximizing certain tech monopolies and rent seeking in industry. Europe has hitched itself to the US because their dependency relationship (encompassing both US influence and European participation in supply chains mediated by US power, requiring access to undercosted goods from poorer nations) is too important to European political & business leadership to consider industrial development. It’s playing a bad long game because elites can always run somewhere else & they have nothing to do but inherit and die. That’s really the main obstacle here, politics. It feels bad when I hear these common sense solutions combined with neolib premises and jingoism lol, Europe will pass off restrictions on Chinese solar panels, EVs, etc as being sound industrial policy, and you won’t see production increase there or prices drop. Look I may jokingly taunt Euros but it’s almost like you deserve better. Rhetorically you deserve better maybe not karmically

Lol of course you think it’s Russian infiltration that’s preventing you from taking advantage of solar and wind & not the US, which just got you utterly dependent on its natural gas shipments by increasing the cost of the Russian oil Europe still buys through secondary countries (oil is incredibly easy to launder as it is just grades of hydrocarbons lmfao)

Maybe you should consider what political forces in Europe are aligned against the chief producer of solar and wind technology (China) and whether they were createf by the Russian infiltration your ruling class orders you to attribute all of your problems to (you dutifully comply)

To compare the energy sovereignty issue, this is like believing the US can actually drill enough to become independent from OPEC countries. (Wouldn’t be alone, this was a popular talking point when the call to Drill Baby Drill was sounded!) The whole point of US drilling is to control the oil market. Actually this is a bad example because the US runs the petrodollar system but no Drill Baby Drill and OPEC cannot save Europe now. Opening up to Russia, China, and Iran and going full Asia mode could. The drilling in Norway and Canada you’re talking about is a price management thing. Oil wells that have more limited stores also become far less efficient to extract the more you pump. To say nothing of crap like tar sands lol

Well you should know from your experience with cutting out Russian oil that a gigantic & cheaper source is not easily replaced! If you think industry there is recovering from that blow to energy prices already you should talk to some pro-Europe people who study this more in-depth, because they’re not happy about it.

All I can say is that Europe doing that would be a huge win for us Asia development fanatics. You’d be handing us your own head on a plate. It’s politically impossible anyways, European access to lucrative trade and finance has all been mediated with US oversight that places them near the top of the food chain. The ruling class the US made rich is not going to bite the hand that feeds them, and Europe isn’t going to depose of its oligarchy overnight. We can dream though

Oh yeah where are you gonna get your oil then, Iran? Hahahahaha

I’ve been using this website for like a month and you expect me to remember everybody and differentiate them from the rest of their cohort that really believes stuff like that? I can add a Sarcasm Allowed tag on you, there. Yes, I view myself as better than everyone here. On top of it, I really need to keep my English skills up, so I seek out conflict. There’s nothing on your profile to indicate you’re anything but a Russiagate BlueAnon type, so you’re only in temporary abeyance until you say something unfunny and I go back to treating you as Hitler.

I don’t think you understand how TASS works. When they say someone said something, the statement itself is the event. I don’t think you know how anything else works either. An “axis” would be a geopolitical arrangement that works together, so you’re already listing two entirely separate axes where two parts have a closer relationship due to history (20% of Israelis are Russian). Iran is unable to have any diplomatic engagement with the US or Israel, even with go-betweens, as it just consists of the US demanding concessions without offering anything. Russia can add a whole new dimension to negotiations. It’s possible they already have. Taking Kan at face value is just lunacy, as is lumping every country you have personal animosity towards into a group.

The world is arranged into imperial core countries, semi-peripheral and peripheral (low income, overexploited not underdeveloped) countries which are arranged into linear value chains by an elite class of compradors, and the limited exceptions to this are countries like Iran, North Korea, China, Vietnam, Russia that actually have a degree of sovereignty - they are still heavily exploited by the US system. Of course if you don’t read anything about this these are just words to you and they mean as much as the gobblederemoved you replied with. Ask me about any country and I will tell you where it lies with relation to the US postwar system

Done by who? Done how? Tf does this mean

There are plenty of societies that have strong state-backed training and education programs. The AI narrative is majority a smokescreen for financialization and downsizing of firms and privatizarion of the state

Just like with the blockchain, China’s been the first to implement a version with an actual use - not financial speculation and buying drugs, and a more power and resource efficient version - of overhyped tech financial bubble buzzword technologies, because they don’t judge its utility differently than any other technology. They don’t have these religious financial cults around AI

They will likely be the only nation other than close regional SEA allies to implement AI in governance effectively instead of using it to somehow make servers using UI from 2014 worse + more insecure & strengthening the Tesla/Palantir/Anduril investor pitch " The Evil Privatized Government Has Anointed Us Chief Devourer of the State Social Services/Tech/Green Energy Budget" where everyone can stuff the 1 trillion dollars the fed prints daily for banks

First worlders who want to pull themselves back out of the hole somehow should stop focusing singlemindedly on minimum wage struggle and public debt, and start worrying about land reform, access to hours + employment, and public housing.