You probably should be busy in manual agricultural work then.

Since unions are about common interest and ideally orthogonal to ideology, I’ll add that my subjective interest, as someone living in Russia, is that US tech workers were offshored and/or replaced by immigrants. Because that will long-term weaken the US as an aggressive nation, by losing qualifications.

At the same time if US tech unionized, that could mean weakening the incentive for that aggressive behavior, and weakening big companies.

Hard to decide really. Basically the only bad variant is if it’s half-done, enough unionization to stabilize, but also not too much so that they’d still have enormous foreign labor resources. That would mean very powerful corporations and no change in politics.

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/LICENSES/preferred/GPL-2.0 (Direct link to the GPL 2.0 license, since you likely don’t have the initiative to scroll 10% down the page)

It’s very telling to even expect that someone here doesn’t know what GPL is.

take the time to read and download The Cathedral and The Bazaar so you can read arguments for the current model that aren’t fresh from your ass

It’s probable that I’ve been a Linux user and interested in it for longer than you, and I’ve read Raymond’s thing at least 12 years ago. I’ve also read some counterarguments.

BTW, at this current point in time I’m again closer to the “bazaar” than to the “cathedral” side of the argument. And Linux isn’t.

In general, having a text in support of something is not a final argument. Honestly it’s weird to encounter it being used as such from someone who’s likely literate more than in first generation.

I’m fine with arguments fresh from my ass if those are more than you can present. And that’s how arguments among intelligent people work, FYI.

Oh and Caesar from Fallout: New Vegas called, he wants his misrepresentation of dialectics and philosophy back, you ignoramus prick.

It’s unfortunate that your intelligence doesn’t allow you to see how clumsy this is, to call someone names instead of, again, providing arguments.

and return to monkey

Yippikayee mothafocka

Oh. It’s you again. Good to see your shallow takes haven’t changed.

I don’t remember you, but I get Dunning-Krueger vibes from things you write which seem to be typical “Linux as a success story” quotes without insight.

Can’t you have the foresight to actually read and research

I prefer to observe them in the wild. I mean, that is what’s called research, but it strongly seems that you by research mean something else.

why things like the FOSS projects we rely on are validated? Linux is owned by no one, and is used by everyone who wants to.

This is as fallacious as “scientific communism” and for the same reason. Because there are dimensions of this where the general consensus of those actually applying resources is neutrality, where it works as you say, and there are dimensions where it’s not.

Or you might read that Karl Popper’s article on the blind zones of dialectics. Corporate participation in a big common open project works similarly to dialectics.

Corporate users are a feature, not a bug, and if anything, their adoption does more to cement the success of the project more than anything else.

Having a stronger Prussia did nothing of the sort for the HRE, and having Ustinov as minister of defense with all his power did nothing of the sort for the USSR, and Google did nothing of the sort for the Web.

But I prefer to live this through with many things today, rather than try to fix it to my limited ability.

People were doing complex surgeries, making fighter jets, submarines and spaceships without what you seem to call a computer.

Also I can’t return to being an American because I’ve never been one.

And C64 is a computer, Radio-86RK is a computer, Amiga 500 is a very good computer.

Supersonic passenger planes have been built, before personal computers becoming anything common, but aren’t operated today.

And you most likely don’t live in a more than 60 story building, despite such being built.

And deliberately reducing your comfort is sometimes valuable, not everything should be entertainment.

Around year 1999. No particular reason, just it seems to have gained recognition and approval among the big fish then.

If by “when” you mean analytically, then when it stopped being “a hobby project started by a Finnish student with participation of volunteers from all around the world” and became one of the houses of power.

Yes, and the same can be said about Windows NT, yet it’s called one thing. Honestly I think I’m getting tired of American intelligence.

It’s an enormous centralized project upon which much of the world depends.

And if you think you can find an intentionally put backdoor in a buttfuckazillion lines of code without even looking, purely by intuition or trusting some random security specialists from the news, then I think you’ve lost the way.

It’s too complex and runs on too complex hardware. Honestly if we are going to look at any FOSS project with such hope, it should become a democracy first. A friendly reminder - Linux is a benevolent dictatorship, funded by corporations.

It is one thing. FreeBSD and NetBSD are not one thing. Linux is one thing.

And I meant Linux, not distributions and userlands, so you’re the troll here.

Honestly the way Americans, and most of all educated and\or elitarian Americans, behave in society, - it makes perfect sense that at some point it will be sold. Nothing like it really in the world, with the UK as the close second.

It’s still funny, Alaska was sold to the US because the Russian empire’s expectation was for the US to eventually control all of the North American continent. Not even control, but settle first of all. Like with Texas, it’s not very convenient when the main settling power is different from the one having theoretical control.

So honestly a meeting in Alaska would make the best sense as a prelude to selling Kamchatka to the US or something like that. It’s kinda sobering that the US today (contrary even to 50 years ago) is not a society that can settle anything new.

And if we think about it, in the middle of the XIX century it was expected that the African continent will be settled by Europeans similarly to the Americas.

South American states preserved, despite all the crime and poverty and dictatorships, some degree of cultural diversity and even humanism, but don’t look as attractive for immigrants as then. Let’s say they were half-settled.

USA was half of the world’s GDP at some point. It’s not anymore.

The whole Africa was in population less than Europe. Settling it was plausible. Not anymore.

There were fewer Iranians on the planet than European Jews. Not anymore.

So I would say that, sacrificing Native Americans, the humanity has formed an immunity against European empires. It doesn’t yet look so, but the numbers don’t lie. And building combat drones en masse is honestly nothing that the non-imperial part of the world can’t do. Actually the involved defense-related corruption is probably less everywhere else relevant than in the NATO countries.

Honestly I think we missed the moment when Linux went the wrong path too.

The only way I’ve ever learned anything is by having a real-world problem that I can solve.

Same thing here except I’m still not a developer. Just from time to time can do something if it’s less boring than going another way.

I’ve even played through the “Turing Complete” game once, because I can’t force myself to repeat it. And it was very interesting, absolutely cool, except that gun has fired. It appears the game changed enough though, maybe it’s a sufficiently different gun to fire again. It’s a game for entertainment, not even talking about real life.

And when there’s a direct incentive, nothing is hard, for real. The hardship is in eyes tiring, time passing, time to render (in case of POV-Ray), migraines. But the task itself just takes it all as a payment, not as an effort.

And I sincerely don’t get why my diagnoses are ASD and BAD despite describing this many times, that is, that happens with ASD too, but honestly ADHD seems the most intuitive abbreviation here.

Seems weird, but there’s another application of these models that for me doesn’t - to convert, say, usual webpages into webpages with proper semantic markup or something like that. For readability and scraping and what not.

Possibly even to make “self-adjusting” gateways representing, say, a social network webpage as an XMPP service. Or to use PGP for private messages in them. Something like that.

Anyway. Until someone does something like that, and that takes enormous amounts of work and discipline, that’s just blabber.

Well, in my head “like Briar” is the best thing possible for architecture. Except Briar only synchronizes joined groups.

Perhaps even with some kind of, yes, a digital dead drop, that would synchronize (purging stuff old or not in demand) everything announced by devices passing nearby. Over some low-range radio, like BT.

Asynchronous communication. Because having a real-time connection with any mesh is hard.

It has. Discussions here are mostly, just like elsewhere, people throwing arrogant smartass-looking text at each other and refusing to elaborate or explain or reason. Due to the experience of getting into such, people who’d actually discuss something instead “money-first” post with a set of markers hinting at their opinions and possible arguments, and masquerade discussion as agreement. It’s only a little less exhausting than going into a shit-throwing contest, even if more rewarding.

just not as “smartphone friendly” and doomscroll-enabled, due to the format.

Boowahahahahaha, I’ve used those with PSP default web browser. With Nintendo Wii web browser. With Java phone web browser (admittedly that was only to read, and very slowly).

Anyway, have clumsy sweaty big fingers (unfortunately due to my behavior girls don’t extrapolate that feature anywhere anymore), strongly prefer anything with physical keys.

They also had protomeme culture before that was a thing - aka “embedded image macros”.

Images, links, enormous smilies’ sets, colored text.

Be the change you want to see in the world

offtopic: The house being Normandy? Then Brits still keep a piece of the fence, as a symbol. Channel Islands meaning.

It’s really inconsequential why they want this. Their success means endgame.

The actions have consequences, and whether I’m breaking a window with a hammer to check how fragile it is or to go outside, it will have both those consequences.

We can see the corrosive effects that social media is having on society, there are countries actively working to make the problem worse but we have no tools to stop them.

You can have “disinformation and extremism” campaigns with only presenting truth or things posted by real people. Just like with political representation. Representatives are a subset of citizenry. The visible posts are a subset of all things posted. Except you can pick any subset you want, if you, say, classify posts by emotion and people by political alignment and what not.

One can have so much more believable bots today, that they won’t be distinguishable from people, but those are beneficial as pressure, making the situation clear for normies, - with transparent identities of people, signing and globally addressing posts, you wouldn’t fear bots and you wouldn’t need a digital ID to access a website. And additionally you would have a way to double check the “color” of recommendations you get.

Thus the solutions they are picking are stabilizing the “disinformation and extremism” environment. With today’s bots it will soon be utterly visibly useless to communicate over social media without what I’ve described. Which means, superficially paradoxically but really not, an end to such campaigns’ efficiency.

So the claim of this helping fight such campaigns I have disproved.

I understand the situation, but they’re trying to go around the democratic process by not talking about the problems.

There’s no “situation”. “Situations” develop much faster. Such a “situation” didn’t transpire in the early 00s Internet, despite plenty of people in it and no identities and regulation.

What “situation” would really look like, I have described - herds of LLM bots infesting social media, which would be beneficial for propaganda of a small amount of interested powerful parties, but will just make social media sour when everyone uses such. Which is fine, there is a technical solution, they just don’t like it. They want the “situation” they describe, but in their favor. It’s very convenient, a weapon evil useless jerks didn’t have for a long time.

OK, I’m in Russia and don’t affect anything. You protest, I’ll cheer.