It’s almost like violence and persuasion are BOTH tools with applications in fighting oppression, rather than picking one or the other as The One True Faith™? 🤯
In case reading the title was too much effort for you.
The problem here is that you are positioning this as if what we are dealing with today is the same as what those people dealt with in their day, and it is not. We aren’t dealing with rational politicians who believe that they must do something to appease the common people to avoid losing their jobs, we’re dealing with fascists who are willing to crush any and all descent, regardless of how it makes them look, because they are already working on changing the law to ensure they cannot be removed from power.
Speaking of reading, read a little something from one of my favorite authors:
“Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, ‘he that is not with me is against me’.”
― George Orwell
The problem here is that you are positioning this as if what we are dealing with today is the same as what those people dealt with in their day, and it is not.
Me: “People have, in the past, acquired rights by moral persuasion, even though violence is also a valid and useful tool in pursuit of the same.”
Speaking of reading, read a little something from one of my favorite authors: “Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist.
Holy fucking shit, have you still not read the fucking title I posted?
It’s almost like violence and persuasion are BOTH tools with applications in fighting oppression, rather than picking one or the other as The One True Faith™? 🤯
Oh wow, you are right, your title does say those things, and I have now seen the light and throw away my means of defending myself in the face of fascism, since we only “sometimes” need weapons to protect ourselves from blatant fascism according to your holy words.
There, I acknowledged your title, now return to your centrism and fence sitting. The adults are working on dealing with actual issues.
Oh wow, you are right, your title does say those things, and I have now seen the light and throw away my means of defending myself in the face of fascism, since we only “sometimes” need weapons to protect ourselves from blatant fascism according to your holy words.
“You sometimes need violence.”
“Clearly you’re telling me to throw away our weapons!”
Christ.
There, I acknowledged your title, now return to your centrism and fence sitting. The adults are working on dealing with actual issues.
Hmm, yes, now tell me how persuasion stopped the Nazis.
In case reading the title was too much effort for you.
The problem here is that you are positioning this as if what we are dealing with today is the same as what those people dealt with in their day, and it is not. We aren’t dealing with rational politicians who believe that they must do something to appease the common people to avoid losing their jobs, we’re dealing with fascists who are willing to crush any and all descent, regardless of how it makes them look, because they are already working on changing the law to ensure they cannot be removed from power.
Speaking of reading, read a little something from one of my favorite authors: “Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, ‘he that is not with me is against me’.” ― George Orwell
Me: “People have, in the past, acquired rights by moral persuasion, even though violence is also a valid and useful tool in pursuit of the same.”
Holy fucking shit, have you still not read the fucking title I posted?
Oh wow, you are right, your title does say those things, and I have now seen the light and throw away my means of defending myself in the face of fascism, since we only “sometimes” need weapons to protect ourselves from blatant fascism according to your holy words.
There, I acknowledged your title, now return to your centrism and fence sitting. The adults are working on dealing with actual issues.
“You sometimes need violence.”
“Clearly you’re telling me to throw away our weapons!”
Christ.
Jesus fucking Christ.