• Omega@discuss.online
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    20 hours ago

    Supporting Iran limits the ability of Israel to commit to their genocide, support Israel only enhances their capability to genocide and supporting neither only benefits Israel which make use of their partnership with the west

    Hate Iran all you want, despise them, that’s fine, but we need to pick anything at this point when the alternative is Israel

    It might be better for the gays in Israel, but what about the gays in Palestine, or simply the people within Gaza?

    You can reform a state to treat gay people like humans, you can’t reform a genocidal state

    • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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      19 hours ago

      Was Germany a Genocidal State 80 years ago? Have they reformed? Did we do it, or did they reform themselves?

      Supporting the lesser of two evils is how we ended up in this mess. A vote for the lesser evil is still a vote for evil.

      It’s okay to condemn both, we don’t need to support one side over the other.

      • AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com
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        18 hours ago

        Was Germany a Genocidal State 80 years ago?

        Yes

        Have they reformed?

        No, they’re overwhelmingly supporting Isntreal’s genocide of Palestinians

        Did we do it, or did they reform themselves?

        They famously were defeated in a war after losing millions of soldiers thanks to the Soviet Union

        Supporting the lesser of two evils is how we ended up in this mess

        No, the west consistently supported the greatest evil: the zionist entity. Iran was well in its path towards progressivism in the 50s-60s, secularism and democratic reform were popular under Mosaddegh, and the west famously toppled their government through economic and less tasteful means because the UK wanted to keep exploiting Iranians for cheap oil.

      • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlBanned from community
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        15 hours ago

        The western allies in World War Two were a lesser evil though (and more evil than modern Iran)! Would you have refused to support them against the Nazis?

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      17 hours ago

      I personally would wait for Iran to stop beating women to death for not dressing a certain way before I defend them, but that’s just my principles.