• wpb@lemmy.world
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    Eh, one side is committing genocide, has been ethnically cleansing Palestinian, continually attacking neighboring countries, and effectively murdering gay people as well (do you think the 2000 pound bombs make an exception for gay people?) and the other side is a theocracy with all the flaws that come with that. When it comes down to it, Israel is far, far worse than Iran. You can support parties you’re critical of.

  • ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Me when a guy in a white supremacist administration makes a nazi salute and the ADL goes “no, it wasn’t”

    Me when an interest group which for decades has cried out against genocide and targeted ethno-religious persecution actively and deliberately proclaims it is going to eliminate an entire ethno-religious group from a large area of land

    Me when people are defending that

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    Nobody’s “cheering for Iran” you goddamn idiot. You’re just a jingoist who support some genocidal assholes bombing civilians.

    Remember 2 years ago when some assholes supported bombing Gaza because “they kill gays”

    But hey what else to expect from the genocide voter crew

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    6 hours ago

    Did you know you can do both? Cheer the dick holes getting bombed by the dick holes? True story. Cheering dick holes is bad mmmkay.

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    Nobody is out there crowing about the superiority of Iran. Or how Iran is sooooooo great.

    It’s just schadenfreude. It’s a quadruple heroin overdose of schadenfreude directly in our veins. We’ve screamed and cried and protested and called reps and done everything we could for 2 years while watching a genocide live on TV. For 2 years.

    It’s very cathartic to see that evil genocidal pedophile colony get its shit rocked. I cheered watching a hypersonic missile hit the Israeli Pentagon and I’ll keep cheering.

    Israel hit first. They called it preemptive but it was premeditated. Big difference. They punched above their weight now the hit dog is hollering. The very moment Israel sues for peace and comes to the table with concessions I’ll support the violence coming to a negotiated end. And not a moment before. Until then. Pound them into fucking sand. Twist the goddamn knife.

    Chump can get involved if he wants but I won’t go die for Israel. Not for all the money held by the Forbes 500. If they call a draft I’ll dodge it.

    Iran has the right to defend itself.

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    Does it matter if it’s Iran? They are still the victims here. Israel is downright genocidal, and won’t stop in Iran!

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    Iran has multiple orders of magnitude on its hands - gay or otherwise - than any country that supports Israel.

    If you can understand why people cheered on the British Empire during World War Two - even though it was one of the most brutal, genocidal entities in history - but can’t understand why people would critically support Iran now, you are just a white supremacist.

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    People are cheering on Iran out of pure spite, not out of genuine support for Iran.

    The American people are tired of our government spending out tax dollars to support a genocide and then gaslighting us about it when we call them out. They are also persecuting dissenters on it. This has happened under both Biden and Trump, though Trump has leaned more on the persecution. We are fucking sick of it.

    There is satisfaction in seeing someone stand up to genocidal Israel, even if the party doing so is despicable in their own right. I think people would greatly prefer getting behind a western democracy taking a stand, but we’re at a point where people will take what they can get. Especially with it being clear that the aforementioned western democracies aren’t going to do shit against genocidal Israel.

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    Lmao the genocidal propaganda, lets use the “they execute gay people” narrative to justify killing Palestinians.

    WE ARE DONE tolerating genocide. Israel of the United States can’t keep colonising and pillaging the middle east.

    One after the other.

    We are not that fucking retarded, OP.

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    Supporting Iran limits the ability of Israel to commit to their genocide, support Israel only enhances their capability to genocide and supporting neither only benefits Israel which make use of their partnership with the west

    Hate Iran all you want, despise them, that’s fine, but we need to pick anything at this point when the alternative is Israel

    It might be better for the gays in Israel, but what about the gays in Palestine, or simply the people within Gaza?

    You can reform a state to treat gay people like humans, you can’t reform a genocidal state

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      Was Germany a Genocidal State 80 years ago? Have they reformed? Did we do it, or did they reform themselves?

      Supporting the lesser of two evils is how we ended up in this mess. A vote for the lesser evil is still a vote for evil.

      It’s okay to condemn both, we don’t need to support one side over the other.

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        Was Germany a Genocidal State 80 years ago?

        Yes

        Have they reformed?

        No, they’re overwhelmingly supporting Isntreal’s genocide of Palestinians

        Did we do it, or did they reform themselves?

        They famously were defeated in a war after losing millions of soldiers thanks to the Soviet Union

        Supporting the lesser of two evils is how we ended up in this mess

        No, the west consistently supported the greatest evil: the zionist entity. Iran was well in its path towards progressivism in the 50s-60s, secularism and democratic reform were popular under Mosaddegh, and the west famously toppled their government through economic and less tasteful means because the UK wanted to keep exploiting Iranians for cheap oil.

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        The western allies in World War Two were a lesser evil though (and more evil than modern Iran)! Would you have refused to support them against the Nazis?

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      I personally would wait for Iran to stop beating women to death for not dressing a certain way before I defend them, but that’s just my principles.

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        Yes at least when the women will have their face liquiefied by israeli white phosphorus bombs they will not have to worry about the mollahs