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    If Iran gets its hands on a nuclear weapon it’s going to be a bad time. Might not be a lesser evil. They have showed how little regard they have for their own citizens, imagine those of other countries.

    This conflict both reduces the amount of bombings in Gaza and distances Iran from getting a nuke, but it would be hard for me to say who’s the bigger evil.

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      Definitely are a lesser evil, quit imagining things. I’d trust Iran with nukes more than the US, we’re the only people in history to actually use them and we dropped them on civilians both times.

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        The US also massacred the indigenous population and a whole series of historic crimes, but we are talking about 2025.

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          Is there a statute of limitations on using nuclear weapons? Doesn’t matter, you’re still wrong either way

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      Iran’s leader issued a fatwa on nuclear weapons.

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              Are laws useless because they can be appealed, reinterpreted, or ammended?

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                By one person on a whim? Yes.

                By a democratically elected parliament, after debate, scrutiny and a vote? No.

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                  I mean that one person was elected by imams who themselves were elected by their congregations. And its silly to pretend theres not endless debate before a fatwa is issued.

                  Iran isnt a democracy, but it does have democratic elements.

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                    But once he is in power he can decide to rescind it, specially as the military requests it more and more. Even more now as attacks escalate.

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      You would basically have to think Palestinians aren’t human to say it’s not obvious who the lesser evil is

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        No, both Palestinians and Iranians are human, and both Israel and Iran are evil murderous regimes with disregard to human life.

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          And one has killed multiple orders of magnitude more humans, is trying to kill even more, and is the aggressor in this case. The British Empire was an evil murderous regime, but if someone was saying they weren’t the obvious lesser evil in World War 2, I would assume they are a Nazi

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            Because Iran isn’t capable of murdering people with the impunity that Israel has, not because they don’t want to, or wouldn’t if given the chance. If they get nukes that would change.

            Following your example, Britain (and America) were both bad and the obvious lesser evil in ww2, but the Soviet union less so. They had their own genocide(s) they just weren’t able to scale it up fast enough before getting invaded.

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              not because they don’t want to, or wouldn’t if given the chance. If they get nukes that would change.

              You have zero evidence of this, just rascism and vibes. This is basically what a Russian supporter would say about Ukraine. This is what the US did say about Iraq. This is what every imperialist prick says to justify their aggression.

              And even if it was true, the actual, real life, actually happening genocide that Israel is committing is worse than the one you imagine Iran might.

              were both bad and the obvious lesser evil

              I’m going to stop you right there. If you think it’s “obvious” that the western allies were lesser evils but can’t tell that Iran is, you are a white supremacist. It’s that simple. Remember, unlike Iran, the British Empire committed actual genocide.

              the Soviet union less so.

              Only if you’re a Holocaust denier.

              They had their own genocide(s) they just weren’t able to scale it up fast enough before getting invaded.

              And this is just straight up false.

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                I have family killed by the Soviet union in the 1940s, so I don’t care about your uneducated opinion defending a genocidal regime.

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                  K, lots of people have family killed by the British Empire and the US, and the Nazis. But apparently you think you’re the main character and the only person who matters. Maybe you should learn you’re not the centre of the universe before chiding others about being uneducated, given you should’ve learned that in preschool.