I’ll give you some context: I (22M) was raised to believe that heterosexuality and its associated biological drives naturally resulted in paternalistic relationship structures where the man has absolute power and the woman is his willing subject. This dynamic was seen as natural and desirable as long as the man led in good faith. As such, men were active partners who showed initiative, while women were passive partners that responded to a man’s advances. Male passivity and female initiative were viewed as unnatural desires.

My tendency to treat others with soft-spoken gentleness and careful consideration instead of stern authority and quick decisiveness made me originally believe that I was incompatible with women despite being attracted to them. I also viscerally hated the idea of subjugating or controlling others because it felt evil. I wanted to work with a partner, not above her.

Additionally, I had fantasies about women initiating affection, taking active roles during intimacy, and expressing a primal hunger to take the reins, fantasies which I believed were impossible to fulfill because my upbringing taught me that female initiative fundamentally did not exist anywhere except in niche fetishes (e.g. femdom), and male passivity would be a turn-off.

The dynamic I find appealing is one in which a partner and I are excited to pursue each other’s pleasure by mutually initiating affection/intimacy and taking turns swapping between active and passive roles. My worry is that there aren’t a lot of women who have that drive to pursue their partners in an assertive manner. What is that impression based on, you ask? Not much, except the “values” I was raised with and the trashy adult sites that I’ve looked at over the years.

It may be worth noting that I hate BDSM and power exchange dynamics where one partner is subject to another’s command and absolute control. What I crave is a consensual, passionate, and attentive lead over someone’s pleasure from a place of love, not domination, and for that initiative to change fluidly between partners.

Is this something with a substantial presence in the real world? How might I find partners who see intimacy in this way as opposed to the “lay down and take it” model? Usually the people on Lemmy have a lot of decently helpful and non-regressive takes, so I’m interested in the opinions here. Thanks!

(And yes, I know that there’s a decent chance that I sound completely stupid and embarrassing here because I fell for a multi-generational psyop used to consolidate political power in the hands of evil men, but think about how many millions of people there are who wouldn’t even think to question this programming… Also, I don’t plan on pursuing a relationship yet because I’m still deconstructing the mountain of lies that I was fed and building my self-confidence, but I think I can make it there eventually.)

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    You’re right on the money. I’m pretty bright, but I make mistakes. Just yesterday I misunderstood somebody using the term “binary kids” (in reference to computer binary) here on Lemmy. I had to laugh about it. We’re all human, and it’s okay to make mistakes and learn from them.

    As to spoiler tags, they’re kind of tricky. I have to test them with a preview whenever I use them.

    Here’s an example of how to use them. If you copy/paste what I wrote below and remove the backslash at the start (which I’m only using to inactivate the tag, for demonstration purposes), you’ll have a template for making your own spoiler.

    / ::: spoiler spoiler
    spoiler text
    :::

    So if you type:

    / ::: spoiler And the big reveal is
    An annoying way to mark-up text
    :::

    It becomes:

    And the big reveal is

    An annoying way to mark-up text

    One last note - keep the line spacing the way it is. If you don’t put the three parts on three different lines, the spoiler tag won’t work.

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      like so?

      Thanks for taking the time! Both to use this knewfound knowledge as well as to reward a snafu with a gaff; I will share something mildly embarrassing.

      spoiler.

      I got dog piled the other week when I revealed that I thought New England was a US state. All the homies got their dunks in and I giggled along, albeit red in the face and clearly begrudgingly lol. I’ve always been bad with places and names. Oh well :P

      Edit: not quite “like so”, it seems. Let’s see if I can figure this out…

      Edit 2: finally got it lol