• Dasus@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    19 days ago

    McDonalds is the worlds best resturant with that kind of logic.

    It is. It’s the best at not being shit. You don’t expect a gourmet meal, but you get very standardised food no matter where on the planet you are.

    Even Michelin star restaurant give you the shits more often than plain old MickeyD’s which never fails to have the same mediocre quality.

    Just like broken English.

    Finnish can do a billion things English can’t but English has hundreds of thousands of words, nearing a million if you count obsolete terms, whereas Finnish has barely 100 000 even when you do count even obsolete terms.

    So just like with McD, it’s the usecase which matters. “Best” is such a subjective term if you don’t define it.

    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      19 days ago

      “Best” is such a subjective term if you don’t define it.

      i did define it though.

        • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          18 days ago

          Depends on what you consider “success”.

          Being a well structured language that is consistent and easy to use. As in “high quality tool”

          • Dasus@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            18 days ago

            Yes, I thought you might refer to that.

            So, by that definition, you consider Toki Pona far more successful language than English, I take it?

            It is much better structured and far simpler to use.

            • jwiggler@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              18 days ago

              I’m confused why you seem to think that because English is the most popular second language, that automatically means it is the best communication tool. Don’t you think the reason it is so well-known is more because the US (and UK, to a lesser extent) is such a dominant force economically and militarily? That non-English-speaking states consider it important to learn, so they teach it early in school – and then on top of that the largest film industry is in the US, so English content is pretty available?

              I mean, there is a lot more external force going behind the dissemination of English than that of Toki Pona, so I dunno, seems pretty silly to attribute it’s “success” (popularity) to some internal aspect of the language.

              • Dasus@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                18 days ago

                No no no no.

                YOU made a claim. I asked you how you define the “best” language. You clarified. Simplicity and good structure.

                Toki Pona definitely has better structure and is simpler than English.

                Yet you now refuse to stand behind the argument you made?

                “Sad.”

                • jwiggler@sh.itjust.works
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  18 days ago

                  I’m not the OP, I’m just asking you a genuine question dude. Why are you so friggin hot.

                  • Dasus@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    18 days ago

                    Oh, youre a random interjecting. Sorry I don’t pay attention to usernames when the content seems similar from the quality and content.

                    Yeah Skullgrid makes the argument. By his criteria Toki Pona is better than English.

                    I’m just asking why he would say such a ridiculous thing.

                    Perhaps it’s because he doesn’t realise that how “good” a language is isn’t anything as simple as “structure and simplicity”.

                    Perhaps you agree with him and would like to explain why you do?