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This is a screenshot of a bluesky post from “The Tennessee Holler” posted 12 hours ago. The post reads: “If you’re zip-tying grandmas protesting losing health care maybe you’re not the good guys in the story?” The post includes a repost from Joe G posted 2 hours ago that says “Arresting people in wheelchairs protesting Medicaid cuts.” Below the text is a video thumbnail showing what appears to be law enforcement officers restraining an elderly person in a wheelchair in what looks like a government building or office setting.

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  • Velypso@sh.itjust.works
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    10 days ago

    I fully agree with you.

    Am I responsible for that despite advocating for a more progressive country by attending protests and canvassing for the candidates who are progressive?

    The logic applied here means 20-somethings in France are responsible for Haiti. Thats pretty fucking reductive.

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      10 days ago

      Let’s not sell out our entire country because someone is on a soapbox from a likely near or worse country.

      The number of countries that can rightfully speak down to the US isn’t that large and is mostly in Western/Northern Europe. And half of those have held that distinction for a quite short time.

      Largely the problem is that we’re following the world in the wrong direction rather than leading it in the right direction.

      We’re failing to be a beacon of freedom and a role model for citizens in places like China and Russia and Iran and Saudi Arabia. Our failure to improve ourselves and the world doesn’t make those other countries superior.

      We should all be trying to pull each other up instead of tearing each other down.

    • SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works
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      10 days ago

      Well everyone in a representative democracy takes a small amount of responsibility for it.

      So the actual amount of responsibility for the past is mainly symbolic, and you should treat it as such. It takes on more meaning when you consider that what happens next is a much larger responsibility for individual citizens.

      I notice that many similar complaints are founded in individualism, which is the ideological reason you folks are in this mess.

      Start there.

      Organize, or bear judgment.

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      10 days ago

      You were literally defending a guy who was trying to deflect and act like the US is doesn’t deserve the criticism because women are treated poorly in some other countries(likely thinking about one of the places where he US helped install the very governments that oppress those women).

      • Velypso@sh.itjust.works
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        10 days ago

        That most certainly is not the case. I am defending myself from accusations that I helped make the world the way it is today by being born in the wrong country decades after the path had been set.

        What country are you from? The logic applied means you’re directly responsible for any atrocity committed by your government.

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          10 days ago

          Literally you weren’t personally part of the conversation until you made yourself part of it. You heard that people were pissed at the US and took it as an attack on yourself.

          You need to figure out why you did that.

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            10 days ago

            If I said everyone with the username soup needs to shut the fuck up about world politics would you take offense to that?

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              9 days ago

              I really don’t think you’re grasping any of this, or any of how you came across, enough to continue this conversation.

              If you want to play that game, though, let’s do it this way: I’m a man, and I fully understand why women choose the bear and why, no matter how much I think I’m one of the good ones(even when I’m told so by the vast majority of the women in my life), I should stay out of their business unless prompted to contribute. You sound like you’ve said “not all men” before, and you should really work on why you give off that energy even if you haven’t.

              • Velypso@sh.itjust.works
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                9 days ago

                Yeah man, I’ve read all of those words on social media too.

                I’m happy you can effectively copy and paste.

                Of course, anyone with half a brain chooses the bear. But now we have to deal with half-witted morons who use it as an insult to those who dont deserve it.

                It’s funny how aggressive you took this when someone attacked your username.

        • SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works
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          10 days ago

          Friend, I live in a settler state too, and our genocide isn’t quite over yet either. I didn’t start it, but as a part of the settler side of the equation, I benefit economically. I also benefit from the neocolonialism of the companies based in my country, indirectly, yes, and whether I ask for it or not.

          No matter what I do to

          • stop the last bit of the genocide
          • make redress and other justice happen
          • end foreign exploitation

          …it won’t be enough. Doesn’t matter, take it on and acknowledge it.

          Funny how responsibility works. It’s nuanced.

          • Velypso@sh.itjust.works
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            10 days ago

            I’m not responsible for the actions of bloodthirsty politicians when I do everything I can short of murder to prevent these things from happening.

            I dont choose to benefit economically.

            Being a participant in society is not just cause to blame someone for another’s actions.

            • SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works
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              10 days ago

              This all-or-nothing lack of nuance combined with a lack of collective responsibility is a fairly typical example of the kind of complaints I hear or read about USA culture.