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  • I don’t even see a justification for the need to put these departments more closely under the control of the executive

    False corruption charges are frequently used by insurgencies and foreign influence operations to undermine legitimate governance. I’m not saying it is or isn’t a legitimate concern in this case but, if it were, we definitely wouldn’t know the exact reasons. Given Russia’s history of using foreign influence as a weapon of war and, in particular, their history of doing so in Ukraine, I can definitely understand the concern.

    Of course real corruption can’t go unanswered because of the possibility of trumped up charges. It’s a tricky bit of business to get right.





  • I meant anti-Harris lefties who actively wanted her to lose to Trump

    If you think that’s a large enough group that it had any impact whatsoever on the election, then you are insane.

    How? How would you propose that could have realistically happened?

    Well, for one we wouldn’t have nominated Biden and never would have been in that position with Harris. We might have also held Biden’s feet to the fire more, thus discovering his mental state long before election time.

    Its partially because more of them don’t vote compared to the last election.

    None of that says that “lefties” in particular didn’t vote for Harris. Left policy sells, so a further left Harris would have done better, but that’s the establishment’s fault, not leftists. It also doesn’t take a leftist to be against genocide.

    Now does some of the blame go to the Democratic establishment? ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY. But not all of it.

    That’s funny, because nothing you said before gave them any fault at all, and you definitely seemed in the mood to throw fault around.

    So you can go ahead and choose to not vote next election. I don’t care enough to argue with you on that now.

    WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING TO?


  • Well theoretical the DNC is not baked directly into the government and continues its stranglehold by trying to kill all 3rdparty prospects pretty aggressively.

    No, it’s not aggressive at all in trying to kill 3rd parties. That’s because 3rd parties aren’t a threat to power in this country. It uses 3rd parties as an excuse for their losses, and uses that to go after the left (something it does do aggressively).

    Its a soft power Revolution similar to what happened with Adelle in Chile.

    Chile is a parliamentary system with proportional representation, not a first past the post winner takes all system. Totally different animal.

    I mean functional what’s occurring with the Trump administration is a soft power revolution.

    Yes, executed through an inside strategy of taking over the Republican party. Imagine that.

    The point of this discussion is to encourage people to put down the DNC in favor of other organizations like local ones that actually benefit the community by helping the impoverished or to look at other organizations like the DSA or PSL or FSRO

    If that were the point of this discussion, it would seem like that might have been something to mention before now.





  • There are two paths, an inside and an outside strategy. The inside strategy is far simpler, has far greater potential for success, and will harm the least people along the way. Acknowledging that isn’t “giving up”, it’s picking strategy like a grown-up, not some kid afraid to turn down a dare.

    without trying

    This is the most idiotic thing about third party advocates. There have been third parties running consistently for decades, and we are somehow supposed to pretend that that lengthy record of dismal failure doesn’t exist. Meanwhile, inside strategists haven’t won everything yet, so we are supposed to switch to a strategy with a far worse track record.



  • What the fuck are you talking about I’ve heard it a million fucking times already. Its all anti-Harris lefties talk about.

    Uh, no. This anti-Harris lefty, like the vast majority of anti-Harris lefties, knows an outside strategy is insane and mostly right wing propaganda.

    Having fun with the fascism we’ve got instead?

    Maybe if there had been more anti-Harris lefties in the party, we would have had a viable candidate. The hardline centrists did this.

    makes me motivated to fight for my rights when my follow lefties keep empowering fascists through inaction

    Nope. The following is from a Pew Research study.

    The typology groups at either end of the political spectrum, Faith and Flag Conservatives and Progressive Left, are also the most politically engaged – that is, they voted at the highest rates in the 2020 presidential election, and they are most likely to say they post about politics on social media and that they donated to campaigns. The groups in the middle of the ideological spectrum have much lower levels of political engagement.

    So quit uncritically accepting the mainstream establishment excuses. Harris lost because she was a shitty candidate, not because the left doesn’t vote.

    you can both suck shit directly out of my asshole.

    Gosh, were you out campaigning for Harris? I just can’t understand how she didn’t attract more voters. Scolding voters seems like such a solid strategy. /s


  • Great way to logic. Let me try…

    You cannot reform the United States of America because at it’s core it is a capitalist and imperialist country that will always put corporate interests over human interests.

    Oh shit, now the whole project is hopeless. Let me try again.

    You cannot reform humanity because at it’s core it is selfish and self-serving.

    I guess we are all fucked. Or maybe we grow the fuck up and deal with the reality of what’s in front of us and the work involved in making things better. If we can’t reform the Democrats, then we have no chance in hell of shepherding a new party from nothing to national powerhouse without losing it to the same corrupting forces that hold the Democrats. Never-mind the realities of what it would take to take over the country with a third party in a first past the post system.