As tensions escalate between California and the Trump administration over immigration, another potential battlefront is emerging over taxes.

The spat began with reports that the Trump administration is considering cutting funding for California’s university system, the largest higher education system in the nation with about 12% of all U.S. enrolled students.

In response, Gov. Gavin Newsom wrote Friday afternoon in a social media post that California provides about $80 billion more in taxes to the federal government than it receives in return.

“Maybe it’s time to cut that off, @realDonaldTrump,” Newsom said.

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    23 days ago

    Holy fucking shit. I’m amazed, I was just saying the other day that this would eventually get into this point. Didn’t think it’d be this week

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      23 days ago

      Fascism only has one speed: Blitzkrieg.

      Any other speed would be slow enough for people to have enough time to band together and organize a resistance to this horseshit.

      That’s literally the only playbook. Break everything: Go fast. Hit people with so much horseshit they are still stuck trying to process the one from 2 weeks ago, because since then 5 other constitutional crisis’ have happened and now they’re deporting both of your neighbors.

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        That’s not really the case, though. This rise of fascism has been building for decades now. It’s been a slow, steady, drip drip drip. Perhaps not so noticeable except from the outside - Americans are embedded in a pervasive atmosphere of propaganda. The Republicans have been getting more and more authoritarian over the years, more and more extreme, and the Democrats have been letting them. It’s been more than four years since the last violent coup attempt, after all, and those were the same people behind this play.

        It’s not progressing fast. You just haven’t noticed its progress until now, when it’s nearly done.

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          We’re not talking about the rise of fascism. It took decades for that to ferment in Germany and Italy as well.

          We’re talking about when they seize power. Then they make their move.

          We’re talking about the powergrab of fascists once they’ve laid the groundwork.

          That’s the part they need to move lightning fast to achieve a result, before resistance can organize against them. That’s the part in history we’re at right now.

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            Tom8to, tom@to, IMO. The “groundwork-laying” is also a process of seizing power, there just aren’t quite so many guns going bang.

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    If blue states were to band together and do this, it would bankrupt Trump’s fascist federal government pretty quickly. Maybe a blue state Articles of Confederation is in order.

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              I didn’t either. I meant are they seperate state by state like that where a state could threaten to use or withhold nukes as you were implying?

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                They are controlled normally by the Department of Energy.

                But sesession would be a weird event, and many things would change. Physical location is not one of them. And the physical location of the place where the most advanced nuclear weapons are designed and built is in California.

                Would the physicists and engineers at Lawrence Livermore just pack up and leave? Or would they continue rolling out B.83s or something in between.

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                  Even more weird possibilities: would the DoE forcibly relocate the physicists and engineers who do this work? Or would California step in and protect them? In any case I think the number of weapons that wind up under the control of the State of California would not be zero. The same goes for bombers, and missile systems, of which California has the most flexible examples.

                  Sure, the production missile fleet is in Montana and N. Dakota, but those things are there to draw fire, not necessarily to be used. But Vandenberg and Edwards are in California. What happens to those?