I feel like the reason there’s been a resurgance of posts rehashing this has to do with Zohran Mamdani winning a primary in the largest city in the United States. While being openly pro-palestinian AND using the Socialist word positively to boot.
If Harris had won it is highly plausible she would have endorsed Cuomo leading to Zohran’s loss.
Mamdani lends credibility to some of those 3rd party/non-voting/protest voters’ strategy.
I think this causes some… feelings.
Mamdani is not third part though, because he won the primary. So he’s the candidate from one of the two big parties.
And it seems to me like the main reason the dems are unhappy with his win is that even though he won a primary, he is not very likely to win the election given American fear of socialism.
Not really. New York’s mayoral election has ranked choice voting so it’s a different situation. Also, Cuomo is the 3rd party candidate at this stage - he’s running as an independant.
If Cuomo voters snake the election from Mamdani I hope Cuomo has his rapey fingers crushed in a subway.
If Harris had won it is highly plausible she would have endorsed Cuomo leading to Zohran’s loss.
We would also not have immigrants in concentration camps. So you know, it’s a trade off.
The US has been putting migrants in camps since the Obama days. Democrats are just better at pretending they don’t do it
This is simply not true. Detention centers under Obama are a world apart from the concentration camps under Trump. Trump is making camps with Alligator moats. He’s deporting people to countries they don’t come from. He’s sending them to prisons in El Salvador. Did Obama do those things also? No, he did not. Please cut the “both sides” crap because I have zero patience for this bullshit.
This sentiment has never made sense because libertarians steal more votes from replublicans than greens do from dems.
The important thing is to be more pissed at the Democrats for not being good enough than you you are at the Republicans for being evil. There is nothing worse than a western liberal, not even the pro-trans-murder party
I agree, the controlled opposition preventing real opposition is a much bigger issue than the problem itself.
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It’s really cool when you freaks say shit like “it’s a good thing that the American LGBT community and all the immigrants are getting genocided”
Really shows that you aren’t actually against genocide, you just like when Americans suffer and this gives you a good excuse
I love how divisive this is without respect to gerrymandering.
Ranked choice voting and money out of politics are much more important than this dualistic psychological warfare. Republicans lose votes to third parties, too. Don’t play their game. Vote blue if you want, but also extend love to your “deplorable” neighbor. Our division is a much stronger force for control than who is signing oligarchical legislation.
While that sentiment may be the most frustrating, even if every third party voted against Trump, he still would have won. If even 10% of those voters went to Trump, he would have even won the popular vote. Polling suggests that non voters were about evenly split, so a stronger turnout generically may have done nothing.
The result was mostly due to a very boring reason. Inflation was high so whoever in office gets the blame. Similarly Trump lost mainly because COVID sucked, and anyone would have lost (his response did suck, but we saw that there was no such thing as a sufficiently good response).
People like to imagine some big political cause for good or for ill moving the voters, but by and large it’s mostly about how comfortable or uncomfortable they are in the moment to vote for or against the status quo of the moment. But those folks are “just voting” while a very loud minority talks up their “superior” choice to not vote for a lamestream candidate. They speak loudly, but they didn’t have enough votes this time to make a difference. They did in 2000 (technically Gore did have the votes when the data was in, but third party would have made it a decisive Gore victory).
But how can I blame socialist for the failure of society where 50% decide to vote for a convict rapist
Y’all are never making it out of the shit you’re in if this is how you’re thinking. Neither the republicans nor the democrats represent the interests of the working class. You’re just pissed now that the fascism your country has been spreading across the world for decades both under the democrats and under the republicans is coming home to hatch now.
People who focus on just one sole issue and ignore the full consequences and the reality of the say they do have deserve about as much democracy as MAGA. But don’t worry, you no longer will have any say at all.
blaming that one guy is the mentallity that brought that country to its knees. good job, and have fun in the camps.
And this post is an example of a poster who voted for the party complicit in creating the current situation expressing their feeling of moral superiority.
Voting democrat is voting for a longer fuse. Problem is the longer the fuse the bigger the bomb. Or you do what you actually need to do to fix this situation. Do what you should have done decades ago which is not vote democrat.
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Dios mio
Geez. Victim shame much? Just because someone doesn’t comform to a shitty system is not their fault. Hate the game, jackass.
Hate the game has gotten you the Trump death camps, congratulations!
Yeah victim shame, are you really a victim when you are this complicit.
This place is gnarly! I deleted the comment about 9 seconds after posting, because I realized I was browsing in all, not home.
The post got me, sorry if I offended you.
No offense taken friend, ascii has no inflection so it’s hard to tell sometimes. Have a great day.
I always vote third party and I’m not stopping now.
