• SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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    My money is attacking Mexico without a declaration of war. Brown people are down there, it justifies the ICE budget, and other bullshit.

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      A civil one, at this rate. He already hates the people in the country and there’s no one to go to war with since he became but-buddies with all the dictators and, despite everything, attacking Europe would probably trigger a civil war anyway.

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    I’m thinking he is being pressured by people with international buying power whose names are also on the list maybe

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    Ok Donald. If you get Putin to leave Ukraine on Zelensky’s terms, then maybe we can talk about something other than Epstein for 5 minutes. Maybe.

    However, if you fuck over Ukraine, and then try to claim a victory for authoritarianism as a victory for peace (which you almost assuredly will) we double down on Epstein so fucking fast even JD Vance will start to regret betraying you to Rupert Murdoch before the midterms.

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    Everything is a distraction from the West giving up on liberty. It’s not only the US.

    tldr; new UK laws are extremly privacy invading requiering ID and face photos to acces any explicit material including sites like Wikipedia, similiar to some USA state laws and it looks like EU might just follow

    https://feddit.org/post/17287420

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      These aren’t distractions, they’re just doing multiple awful things around the same time. Sometimes the timing is, sure, but these are all very real things that they’re doing. Calling it a “distraction” makes it sound likenthey wouldn’t have been so evil if they weren’t afraid but they love this shit.

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    He’s going to float the idea of giving Alaska to Russia, distracting people from the Epstein fiasco.

    In other words: drumpf is a RAPIST and a PEDOPHILE

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    I think Trump cares more about the Epstein files than his supporters do. He is actually the one making a big deall out of it.

    I just don’t get why.

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    If the Epstein stuff is what finally brings down Trump, it would be peak irony. Its a low bar, but at least some of these MAGA ding dongs draw a line at diddling children.

    I honestly thought there was no line for MAGA at this point.

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      there isn’t, they want to legalize deportation to active warzones, ice also has a racial bias (obviously), plus they let some trust fund billionaire who wasn’t even part of the American government make massive budget cuts that will have massive concequences.

      and technically there is a law that says no president of the united states can be convicted of a crime (for declaring wars and other crap) the side affect being that a 36 times convicted felon (and non-convicted rapist) can run for office, win, and then have all charges dropped

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        Forty-seven percent of Republican respondents said such a revelation would not affect their vote, though based on other polling data this appears to reflect voter loyalty more than approval of the alleged actions.

        Hate to tell ya MAGA, but voting for pedophiles is the same thing as approving of their actions.

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        There’s still a billion-odd self-identified Catholics despite kiddy-diddling scandals and cover ups one after another. People are fine with criminals if they’re their criminals.

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        That…and the other 53% of Republicans have no idea who Epstein is, or they are also implicated in the Epstein files.

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        That’s a pretty low percentage for self identified republicans. Not enough to win an election.

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      If the Epstein stuff is what finally brings down Trump, it would be peak irony. Its a low bar, but at least some of these MAGA ding dongs draw a line at diddling children.

      I have kind of tuned out of this iteration of the Epstein scandal. Why would it bring him down now? Is there really any new information? Everyone with a brain knew he was friends with Epstein and on the list. Americans voted him in twice anyways. Why does it suddenly matter now?

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        Trump campaigned on releasing the list, likely because Trump and Epstein ran competing human trafficking organizations.

        Epstein had MC2 modeling, and Trump had T Management.

        But both used the same recruiter in Eastern Europe.

        There’s likely more ties as well. But you can sort of see how Trump thought he was Scott Free on this one.

        Now, prior to them opening up modeling agencies, Trump and Epstein had been thick as thieves, so there might also be old files that Epstein kept.

        Anyway it all comes down to Trump literally running on releasing the files, and then quickly walking that back when he found out how many times he was mentioned.

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        It’s that “everyone with a brain” bit that’s different now. Because you’re right, nothing here is new. Trump and Epstein’s ties have been pretty common knowledge to anyone not in the cult.

        What’s changed is that those inside the cult can’t really ignore it anymore. They went from “the democrats are all pedophiles and the Epstein files prove it!” to “they have the Epstein files on their desks, they are just doing some final checks before they release them” to “there are no Epstein files, there never were any Epstein files, and if you think different you need to shut up.”. Cognitive dissonance may be a powerful force, but “the Epstein files” have been the conspiracy bread and butter that’s been holding this cult together for a while now. They were probably willing to bend on just about anything but that.

        A lot of hay is made out of the fact that Trump managed to fuck up running a casino, and it’s true. In a business where the saying goes “the house always wins”, it takes a special breed of incompetance to bankrupt the house. This feels very similar. Dude could have said that aliens stole the Epstein files, Q-anon folks would have bought it. Or better yet don’t say anything at all. I think a lot of folks wouldn’t have bat an eye if Trump’s cronies were still “working on releasing the Epstein files” in 2028.

        But he didn’t do that. He made a huge song and dance about “releasing the Epstein files” then obviously canned it at the last minute. For the rabid conspiracy theoriests that comprise his base, the folks who were willing to invent an entire child trafficing code for pizzagate, that was probably the one manuver even he couldn’t pull.

        Will this mean anything in the long run? Well, I’ve kinda had my hope beaten out of me in that respect. But this does kinda feel different, I will say that.

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          That’s my point. Even if it does the worst case scenario here seems to be about 2-3 weeks of noise in the press, followed by the cult getting their prescribed narrative and adopting it wholesale. How does this lead to Trump’s downfall?

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        I am feeling like this is just a big distraction from all sides. “We” are being easily played. All these files have been in the hands of both sides and neither have released them. Either they are all hiding things or there isn’t actually anything beyond the sicko JE.

        Just one more wedge between the citizens (I don’t know you but I hate you) to occupy us while “they” do something else. The uniparty is real.

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          Yes thank your for illustrating the logic that enlightened centrist have used to justify voting for a known rapist twice. Literally just stoner logic.

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      I honestly thought there was no line for MAGA at this point

      Don’t assume there is a line. Most of those MAGA numbskulls are armed to the teeth, yet neither Trump nor any of his less-well-protected henchmen are dead yet. So I guess kiddie stuff is mildly okay for the MAGA dumdums - or at least not really anything to get truly worked up over…

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        You realize there’s been several attempts on Trump and his staff, right? After the first one, they’ve been downplaying it. People have resigned in fear over the Epstein files

        And with pizza gate, there was supposedly a dungeon with children about to be raped and killed. Releasing the files is more abstract and less immediate

        Time will tell, but I don’t think this is going away

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      The “good” news is that the reason most stuff never sticks is because most of his base (and the people as a whole…) never know about it. Yes, it is hard to miss if you at all pay attention to the news. How many people respond to a thread to complain about the paywall and ignore the article? Or actively reply without ever having read the article in the first place? Let alone the crowd who “prioritize their mental health” by ignoring everything anyway.

      What makes the epstein shit special is that it has been the rallying cry of qanon, and much of the alt-right, for the better part of a decade. In a lot of ways, they are single issue voters with said issue being “god emperor trump is going to kill all the cheese pizza pedophiles in the epstein list”.

      And when your very identity is built around salivating over a list of who raped those kids and continue to receive irrefutable evidence that the man you put your faith in got his dick wet with those same child tears for decades?

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      It was what started the revival and rise of political Trump, QANON was all about stopping diddling children. Or so many of its believers were told.

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    that bullet should have gone through his head, not his ear, we were two inches away from a better world

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          My understanding is that glass from the screen likely shattered and hit his ear?

          In any case, a little better aim and we would have a better world.

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            i found this in an article after three minutes of research

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/photos-of-trumps-ear-before-and-after-his-rally-shooting-arent-what-we-expected/ar-AA1p4Azy

            Seeing the Republican candidate’s ear intact had some questioning the source of Trump’s wound. “This is so strange, does anyone else think trump didn’t actually get shot?” an X user commented. Others were quick to point out that while the flesh damage was not substantial that it was clear Trump had in fact sustained injury. “Disagree, there is evidence of damage at the top,” one X user replied. “How grown adults can’t understand that a 5.56mm hole in your ear can be sewn up and properly heal is beyond me,”

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                there was no hole, the top of his ear was taken off, he was almost killed but gout out with what is effectively a fancy scratch, i don’t think any sane person would ever go look mommy i have a booboo also if you actually read the article a shared a link to you would have read that his ear bled a lot, which might not have been super kid friendly when being viewed on public tv

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          My understanding is that glass from the screen likely shattered and hit his ear?

          In any case, a little better aim and we would have a better world.

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          My understanding is that glass from the screen likely shattered and hit his ear?

          In any case, a little better aim and we would have a better world.