Brook House in west London will be a “UK first” in providing homes exclusively for women.
The idea is that single women are their own demographic, with different needs to families etc. It’s partly aimed at DA survivors… let’s be honest, even without DA a massive part is safety.
What’s your thoughts on this project? Would you be more likely to live in a block of women only flats to mixed?
Knowing how many TERFs there are in the UK, I’m guessing their definition of “woman” is probably pretty narrow. So while I like the idea in theory, I’m betting some in our community will still be discriminated against, unfortunately.
Yeah, with the recent law in the UK, this is almost certainly trans-exclusionary.
Yep! And trans women may be more likely to give it a miss because they know they’ll be a stand out target there. You just need one vocal bully…
Yes please, that’d be sick. Granted, I think girls are pretty and I like smooching them, but…
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HAHAHAHA NEVERMIND. It’s guaranteed to be trans-exclusionary. Fuck the UK. Fuck the US. Fuck this bullshit world and the garbage people who live on it. I swear there are so many people on this earth that we’d truly be better off without.
Edit: after looking up the policies of the managing group, Women’s Pioneer Housing regarding trans people, it sounds like they might actually accept trans women; at least for now.
A link to their policy: https://womenspioneer.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Transgender-Policy.pdf
We will allow the following women to be nominated by the council or referral agency, and join our public waiting list:
- Any woman female by birth (Gender recognition Act 2004)
- Any woman who holds a gender recognition certificate legally declaring her female (Gender recognition Act 2004)
- Transgender women who meet the definition of a person who ‘intends to undergo, is undergoing or has undergone gender reassignment’ (Equality Act 2010).
- Non-binary women who are either born female, or meet the 2 and 3 above
We will not accept nominations from the council, referral agency or waiting list for:
- men who cross dress
- transgender men
- anyone who we know has a history of male violence against women or children
The QL system should ask for gender and options should be:
- Man
- Woman
- Other
3.4. In terms of if a woman transitions to a man while living in our stock we would not take any action to end the tenancy
So, it’s a bit of a mixed bag - but it’s not the transphobic policy I expected (excluding trans women entirely). Not sure how transfem enbies would feel about this policy, or how difficult it is in the UK to get the gender recognition certificate, or what their definition of “gender reassignment” means.
I also like to smooch girls! And yep if they are DA related and allow trans they risk getting attacked from all sides and funding cut. So even if they’re not TERF there’s a good chance the TERFS will insist trans women suffer
Personally I find charms on both sides, smooching-wise. 😜
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I didn’t see any information on if male guests or children were allowed. I think having spaces where women feel safe is important, but I’d be interested to see how this is implemented. I’ve definitely been in places where there was a designated “don’t interact with guy from apartment X” welcome crew. It’d be nice to not have to worry about that so much.
I thought that as well. Without staffing it’s impossible to manage no guests. And children grow up, so they either ban kids, allow teenage male children or evict when the child grows up! All are bad
That’s basically what killed female separatism in the 70s
My thoughts exactly. Plus I think some women might be more comfortable at home, so not being able to invite a prospective partner over and being forced to engage in their house might make them more likely to capitulate to things they are not comfortable with instead of telling the person to leave. I know some women keep their address to themselves for quite a while though, so it really is person to person based on comfort.
I think options in general are good, and this may be a good fit for some people and not for others. I know people like DV victims need safe places, but I also worry that certain restrictions make resources more scarce. I doubt any of these will sit vacant, but everyone needs safe affordable housing, so the fact that this is closed off to so many people when there’s not enough to meet the current need is also something worth noting. I would have no reservations about it if there was an excess of safe affordable housing with none of these restrictions, so everyone living there was specifically choosing that option rather than potentially just taking what they have access to in the moment.
You make a really good point about lack of housing options. It puts a lot of people in a position, and there’s the greater social need to consider
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Personally I like most of the men in my life. Sure, yes, I have to be wary at times (because “most” doesn’t mean “all”), but overall men are just fine, on average. So I would likely select a mixed block over a women only block. I’d just make sure the doors are solid and the locks work well.
But I’m not all women and I can see rather unfortunately sizable sets of women who would far rather live in a block where there’s only other women around them. And there’s enough diversity in the world that we should be able to accommodate those with that need or desire.
I have no problem living near men. What I need is an area with no children.
I’ve had a lot of clients who’d really like living somewhere woman only. It’s also great for DA survivors because it’s a barrier for the perp rekindling or attacking their ex. It’s going to reduce the chance they’ll be targeted by another perp… but I’m not sure how much it’ll help.
It wouldn’t make any difference to me, if I bought a flat, I’ve got far bigger priorities than this. I’d be interested to see if it takes off
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Hey Catty thanks so much for dropping in and giving us your respectful perspective! We are trans inclusive women only, so please don’t comment again. Thanks for understanding ❤️
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Apologies catty I wasn’t implying that you are trans exclusive, just making it clear we welcome trans people So sorry for any offence caused and have a lovely weekend 🥰
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