• b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    There is a socialist on the loose in New York City!

    Come home brother! Your true home! Your calling is to be a genocidal maniac with us! Think of the land we’ll steal! The children we’ll murder! It’s our destiny!

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    LMAO imagine going on a schizo rant just because the winning major candidate is of a different religion that you don‘t like. Almost as if religion is used as a tool for power and legitimization of violence against innocent people.

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    I just connected it now. Is all the 911 drama actually about a mayoral candidate being a muslim? Are you fucking serious. I though i couldnt be any more dissapointed in people but apparently ive just been proved wrong again.

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      No, it’s because he’s a progressive leftist; a socialist. They know they can call out him being a Muslim and get people to not vote for him though.

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      Remember that he’s got the votes though. He’s still got the general election to go through but despite all this hatred … a majority saw through it. Let’s hang onto some hope. The world is so shitty right now.

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        NYC has despised trump for decades, as have most large cities. The GOP’s grip on federal power has never depended on winning the blue cities.

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    Trump bragged about having the tallest building in NY after terrorists took out the Twin Towers on 9/11. Then, 24 years later, he complimented and shook the hand of a man who ordered inspired and cheered for the attacks, in front of the US Secretary of Commerce whose brother and staff were killed.

    But sure, tell me how the front-runner for mayor being a member of the same religion is the bigger deal.

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    Thank you for your attention to this matter

    Isn’t that a MAGA dog whistle that Trump uses?

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      It’s something he’s started putting at the end of his tweets. I assumed it was dementia not a hidden message.

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        Yeah my understanding of dog whistles is about as thorough as my ability to hear them, seems like it’s a code that changes every day

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    Betar, famous for anti-semetic attacks on jews critical of Israel. They forced a “pager” in to the breastpocket of Norman Finkelstein and called him a holocaust denier of all things. His entire family was exterminated ffs.

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    Without knowing who they are, this reads like an anti-Semitic tweet.

    Would be really funny if someone started a thread accusing them of such.

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      The guy who won the NYC mayoral primaries (Zohran Mamdani) does not cheer on the genocide in Gaza, so he must be a Hamas plant. This endangers jews all around the globe. Obviously.

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      Betar is a Ziofascist organisation funded by Israel. They are doing what they do: whipping up hostility and fear against people who support Palestine.

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      Betar is an Israeli terrorist organisation (literally). Currently they give Donald Trump orders on which pro-Palestinian activists to deport.

      In New York, the Democratic primary was just won by Zohran Mamdhani, who actively opposes Israel and wants to impose sanctions against Israel until it complies by international law.

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    So extremists are telling other extremists to leave New York?

    Don’t let the door hit ya where Yahweh split ya.

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      New York Jews are not extremists, though? They’re just normal people who happen to be Jewish

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        Eh, I guess it’s a matter of perspective. Just like you shouldn’t claim all Jews are extremist, it’s also inaccurate to claim that all New York Jews are just normal people who happen to be Jewish. That is unless you believe holding extremist political views is perfectly normal…which is a matter of perspective.

        Imo the Jewish community has gone pretty far to the right, a similar response to America after 9/11. Even a lot of the prior moderate American Jewish community has recently adopted some pretty hard right stances when it comes to Palestine.

        Just looking at Jewish communities on places like reddit can be pretty wild as far as how common it is for people to respond to valid criticism of the Israeli state as antisemitic hate crimes.

        This is the inherent problem of ethno-states, it creates room for forced conflations between ethnicity and nationality.

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          Less than a month after the attack that began this whole thing new york jews weee marching against genocide with a fair bit of frequency. I only know this because I visited a Jewish friend there at the time and kept hearing complaints about how several of these protests were having the jewishness of them ignored.

          New York jews are normal Americans. Unfortunately yes that includes the aspect where they’re likely to mythologize and idealise their ancestral homeland. But much like other Americans, many are incredibly critical of it or don’t care or any other opinion.

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            Right, but my point was that the Jewish community isn’t a monolith, 25% of the American Jewish population lives in NYC. Of that nearly 1 million people there are going to be a significant population of them that are going to have some pretty extreme views about Palestine.

            While this poll may not accurately reflect the spectrum of beliefs of Jews in NYC, it’s statistically unlikely that NYC Jews represent the entirety of the American Jewish population who reject Zionism. Meaning more than likely more than half of the NYC population of Jews support Zionism, or believe that anti Zionism equates to antisemitism.

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          The majority of Jews in New York are secular and therefore don’t have a mouthpiece like the major Orthodox groups. And it’s not even like orthodoxy is even “extreme”

          A fraction of Jews are Orthodox and a fraction of those Orthodox Jews are extremists. So yeah, I wasn’t 100% correct but it’s not even in the same ballpark as what I replied to.

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            The majority of Jews in New York are secular and therefore don’t have a mouthpiece like the major Orthodox groups

            That’s the thing with ethno-states, you don’t have to be religious to be a nationalist. It’s not just orthodox Jews who have a problem with Palestinians. Hell, you don’t even have to be Jewish to have extremist views about the genocide in Palestine. You could be orthodox, a secular Zionist, a right winged nationalist, or you could even be vicariously motivated evangelical who thinks a war in the holy land will spark the second coming. Are those views “normal”? Not to me, but I’m not exactly in charge of making those opinions for others.

            As I said, it really depends on what your perspective is when it comes to what qualifies as normal.

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          Bending the rules is very much a part of Orthodox Judaism for sure - it’s the only way to exist in today’s world. I’ve heard (from an Orthodox Jew I worked for) that priests talk to God and Rabbis argue. Questioning - or rather, being critical of - your faith is encourage.

          But most jews in New York aren’t Orthodox. Most don’t even go to Temple weekly.

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            Fair, I like that analogy. I realized that the way I phrased it sounded rather dismissive of the practices which, honestly, I am, but it seemed overly harsh, so I deleted it

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              I’m not Jewish myself but it’s a really cool religion. Not that you asked, but my favorite rule bend in my time working with the Orthodox fellas was “shabbat mode” on his automation system. Using electricity is fine but they can’t use any sort of switch (flipping a switch = creating a tiny spark = creating flame, which is prohibited) so there was the obvious lighting automation BUT his wife requested an automated outlet in the kitchen and I asked by boss why…it was so she could plug in a hot plate before Sabbath and it would turn it on at 6 so she could serve a warm meal.

              I really disliked that client but I loved that shit.